With the discussion of whether assisted dying should be allowed in Scotland befing brought up again, I was wondering what other people thought of the topic.

Do you think people should be allowed to choose when to end their own life?

What laws need to be put into place to prevent abuses in the system?

How do we account for people changing their mind or mental decline causing people to no longer be able to consent to a procedure they previously requested?

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[–] MxRemy@lemmy.one 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

I was in favor of this until I started reading Marta Russell. She lays out the history of using the concept of assisted dying to do things like get rid of people with disabilities, increase profits for hospitals, decrease funding for home nurses, convince people who are no longer productive that they shouldn't live anymore, etc etc. It seems like a good idea on paper, because bodily autonomy and stuff, but capitalist ghouls coerce people into it.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Anything can be corrupted by capitalist ghouls. I wouldn’t let that fear stop me from doing the right thing. People shouldn’t be forced to suffer, and should be allowed to choose when to die.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Anything can be corrupted by capitalist ghouls.
People shouldn’t be forced to suffer

Can you really not see that capitalist "ghouls" (they're just people) have already corrupted society enough, that they are the very reason people are suffering in the first place, and that making those who are suffering kill themselves off the "reasonable" solution, instead of ending the suffering enforced on them by capitalists, is very actively playing along with said capitalists, rather than the ones whose suffering you claim to be concerned with?

[–] WookieMonster@midwest.social 2 points 7 months ago

Cause nobody ever died of slowly and painfully of cancer except that capitalist forced it on them? Come on. Capitalism sucks a lot, but it's not the source of ALL problems.

[–] Hjalamanger@feddit.nu 14 points 7 months ago

May I ask were you live? I live in Sweden and would personally trust our medical system not to abuse such tools but depending on were you are I do understand that you might be worried.

Anyways I don't really see it as a problem with assisted death but with the system using it

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 7 points 7 months ago

Guess everyone should suffer because there is the possibility of abuse that we already know about and could take steps to avoid.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In Oregon, you have to be able to administer it to yourself. It’s not something someone else does to you.

Some people get it as an insurance policy of sorts. So it’s an option during end of life care, but not necessarily one they take.

I am curious about what happens with the med if left unused. Like, do people tuck it away like spare antibiotic eye drops?

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

It's done with a medico in attendance, who then takes the apparatus and spare media on leaving.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

Then you have let the capitalists win. They do not want people to have autonomy over their bodies because they still pay tax and consume products.

A big proponent of capitalist propaganda is to induce the fear of the government. I can assure you that governments are so large and so hampered by rules that this very creative scenario where the government forces everyone to die is hilariously out of the realms of reality.

Governments exist off of taxes. To kill their own tax base for no reason goes against their whole modus operandi. Just think about the positions that are being dispensed to you and by whom and why they might want you to receive a message like this next time.