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For thursday's sentencing the us government indicated they would be happy with a 40-50 prison sentence, and in the list of reasons they cite there's this gem:

  1. Bankman-Fried's effective altruism and own statements about risk suggest he would be likely to commit another fraud if he determined it had high enough "expected value". They point to Caroline Ellison's testimony in which she said that Bankman-Fried had expressed to her that he would "be happy to flip a coin, if it came up tails and the world was destroyed, as long as if it came up heads the world would be like more than twice as good". They also point to Bankman-Fried's "own 'calculations'" described in his sentencing memo, in which he says his life now has negative expected value. "Such a calculus will inevitably lead him to trying again," they write.

Turns out making it a point of pride that you have the morality of an anime villain does not endear you to prosecutors, who knew.

Bonus: SBF's lawyers' list of assertions for asking for a shorter sentence includes this hilarious bit reasoning:

They argue that Bankman-Fried would not reoffend, for reasons including that "he would sooner suffer than bring disrepute to any philanthropic movement."

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)
[–] mii@awful.systems 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The fucking comments on the live chat, lol.

I'd like to see him a free man. With his skill-set think of the contribution he could make

I would actually like to see him to less but use his knowledge to help other exchanges and crypto whales

​​Hope he gets the least amount of time

​​i feel bad for sam, i don't think he's a threat to society. only thing is they may want to make an example out of him

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 8 points 8 months ago

Ha, 2 hours later, comments are disabled.

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

what skill set. WHAT SKILL SET

[–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 10 points 7 months ago

@sc_griffith @mii he got rich, therefore he must be good at whatever he was doing. Please pay no attention to the man behind the curtain

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 7 months ago

probably the same kind muskies see in 'ole felon

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

lol it's just a camera on the front of the building

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

yeah, realized afterwards that it's probably the feed for press meet when they leave, as iirc US court doesn't allow video or something

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 8 months ago

whacky to hear some of the comments dropped offhand by the door dudes tho