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Since a lot of folks sort by “all” on Lemmy, popular posts get overwhelmed by people who don’t daily drive operating systems like iOS or MacOS.

I like outside perspectives and all, but when the majority of the “community” discussion is coming from people who aren’t even using these products, it is pretty hard to have informed conversations.

Moreover, I feel like this type of engagement creates a lot of threads that get pretty combative and catty. They’re often started by people who are trying to argue and convince iOS / MacOS users that they’ve picked the wrong side of the fence.

Anyone else feel me on this? I imagine this is a problem for other communities on Lemmy as well.

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[–] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 59 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Some of Apple’s biggest fans are also sometimes Apple’s largest critics. I’m all for critical discussions, but the “herp derp finally getting what Android have for years” kind of comments are certainly getting old, and I wouldn’t mind seeing less of.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Agreed, but I will say that it’s pretty clear that a lot of these upvoted threads are from people who don’t use the operating systems very much, if at all.

For example, I frequently see highly upvoted threads with people complaining about something missing from iOS or MacOS, and in reality, that has actually been prominent in the OS for half a decade a more.

A lot of people literally don’t have very much familiarity with what they’re commenting or voting on. They’re just letting confirmation bias take the wheel.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 months ago (3 children)

They also love to reference the "cult of fanboys," all the time. I honestly can't say I have ever seen evidence of this cult, or have ever met anyone I would classify as a fanboy.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

I’d argue that the “cult” was totally a thing back when Apple was a small player in certain markets, and people liked pulling for the underdog. The Apple evangelism was also pretty high back when a media player or phone with good experience and industrial design was actually a new concept. But now the bar has been raised, and everyone strives for good industrial and experience design.

IMHO, people aren’t really going around and preaching the gospel of Steve like they were 10 or 15 years ago. Those days are kind of gone.

[–] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

The only cult I ever see IRL is the cult of Android and Linux users that feel like their unwarranted opinion is something anyone asked for. Lemmy tends to have more tech-savvy people in its communities so even Windows doesn’t escape the wrath of these people. For all the complaints of fanboyism, the worst fanboys are the anti-Apple ones.

[–] Takeshidude@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

On the contrary, I have had multiple conversations with Android users trying to convince me that iOS is bad/Android is better with nearly religious fervor.

[–] GuyFleegman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah, exactly. I find criticism of Apple products from people who are deeply familiar with their products to be quite entertaining, but that's not even close to what's happening here. Most of the comments in this community are one step above "DAE Macs can't right click??"

[–] jack55555@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 months ago

The mods need to do something about this, it is so tiresome to even look in this sub sometimes.