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Donald Trump is close to the deadline to post bond in his fraud trial—and he’s screwing himself over even more.

After having reached out to several guarantors and 30 suretors for help posting his $464 million New York bank fraud bond, Donald Trump suddenly wants everyone to know he actually does have the cash.

In a bizarre rant on Friday morning, the man who was found to have defrauded banks and investors by overvaluing himself and the value of his properties claimed that he had accrued the wealth by way of “HARD WORK, TALENT, AND LUCK.”

Trump also admitted he has nearly half a billion dollars in cash.

The confession directly contradicts a filing from his legal team last month arguing that it would be “impossible” to secure a bond covering the full amount of the multimillion-dollar ruling.

Trump’s words will surely help out New York Attorney General Letitia James, who on Wednesday urged an appeals court to ignore Donald Trump’s latest effort to worm his way out of paying the $464 million disgorgement from his bank fraud trial.

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 146 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Honestly I don't believe for a second that he actually has the money. I just don't think he can handle people (HIS people) knowing that he's flat fucking broke and at the end of his rope.
Monday we'll find out if Schrodinger's cash was in the box or not.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 90 points 9 months ago (1 children)

One story I heard was that his lawyers have to come into the room in pairs, because he'll tell one lawyer Story A and the other one Story B.

He doesn't lie like an adult; he lies like a child.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 52 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

This was actual testimony by Michael Cohen in one of the cases he testified in. Either the Trump or case org the stormy Daniels case

[–] solidgrue@lemmy.world 45 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it was Cohen who said it. This article fro 2016 suggests it was Pat McGahn in a 1993 deposition during the Trump Plaza bankruptcy case.

In a deposition under oath taken in 1993, one of Donald Trump’s lawyers said they always tried to meet with him in pairs “because Donald says certain things and then has a lack of memory.”

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kendalltaggart/trumps-lawyer-we-met-with-him-in-pairs-to-avoid-lies

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] nomous@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So he just says whatever he needs to say at the moment to rationalize whatever result he wants.

That helps explain why Republicans love him so much I guess.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

He’s like if immersive, self-indulgent self-delusion were a drug you could do just by turning on the tv. A modern religion around solipsism.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I tried to find a link but my Bing-Fu is weak.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I tried to look, too, but it was from a few years ago, and my results are flooded with articles about more recent Trump lies and lying lawyers, since he does it pretty much constantly.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

but it was from a few years ago, and my results are flooded with articles about more recent

I'd like to take a moment to highlight how much a problem this is. It feels like stuff is getting memory-holed not even on purpose, but because search engines aren't good at letting people filter by date range etc.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

We're talking about Trump here. There was a list of 10,000 lies he told while he was in office.

At least 10,000 because the article is from 2019

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-has-made-10000-false-and-misleading-claims-washington-post-fact-checker-145444166.html

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Upvoted for not using Google.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I've read he legit does have a bit over $500M liquid, but if he touches more than $450M of what remains, loans will automatically start getting called in.

Loans he can't pay if he only has $50M liquid left.

[–] PopcornTin@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

That'd be economics 101. Cash sitting idle loses value, so keep it to a minimum.

But we're not about that. Buahaha, Trump's such a loser, he doesn't even have a few million in the back!!1

I very much doubt anyone other than his personal accountants know the answer to this.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago

Schrodinger's cash

That is chef's kiss perfect 🤌

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

He said it, so it can only be one of two things:

  1. a bald face lie
  2. channeling the jealousy of his lizard brain

In this case, option 1 seems most plausible.

[–] meat_popsicle@sh.itjust.works -3 points 9 months ago (5 children)

He’s not broke. TruthSocial is about to go public via SPAC and make him about $3.3B. Company will trade under ticker DJT.

From Reuters

This is all a nice distraction to rile his base.

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago

I don't have that kind of money to risk, but this seems like a great opportunity to short a stock.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Not sure who was making that value projection, but if it was a trump-involved party, you can definitely count on that being over inflated bullshit.

We all need to stop regurgitating trump headlines/talking points verbatim without attempting to add some context.

"its future is fraught with uncertainty. Digital World's former CEO Patrick Orlando and former Trump business associates Andy Litinsky and Wes Moss have separately sued to ask for more shares for their previous work on the deal.

It is unclear how and when these cases will be resolved. Even if the deal gets completed next week, Trump will not be allowed to sell any of his shares in the combined company for six months or borrow against them, based on terms he previously agreed."

Yeah honestly it's hard to believe it could be worth that much.

If he died it would become worthless.

What a dumb investment.

[–] S_204@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

He can't cash that out in time to help with this, and what bail bondsman is going to take shares of a social media company as collateral?

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 4 points 9 months ago

He gets shares, which they value at that price now. It’s not a successful social media network. The price may drop once floated. He can’t touch the shares for 6 months. Without being propped up, it may be dead by then, although depending on launch, it may still be viable at that point as the election will still be ongoing. However, if he crashes and burns (jail, insovlency) before then, it could also crash and burn. He’s still in his Icarus phase.

S no, he doesn’t have 3 billion lying around. We also don’t know his debts, which may also be billions.

[–] stewie3128@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

DJT's public offering needs to be pushed out past the first or second week of May in order to screw Donnie over. He can't cash out any shares for six months, or use those shares as collateral for six months either.

If he loses in November, that stick becomes worthless.