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Analogies are generally terrible at convincing people, and even more so when it's about legal situations.
The process would be that they get sent some notice that something they're hosting violates copyright law, and that it needs to be taken down or a lawsuit will happen. Unless they ignore it, and they should definitely not do that, then nothing else happens. If they get a lot of them from a certain community or instance, then they discuss why those mods/admin can't keep their community in order, and if it becomes enough of a hassle, defederation or blocking is prudent.
Copyright law can be pretty ridiculous, no argument there, but this is well trodden stuff here. lemmy.world is not the first social media website that has had this concern.
But it is alone in its unique capabilities as an all-volunteer free site. That's not to say other free+volunteer sites don't exist, but, rather, that we can't lump it with others since they'll have their own goals for providing their free instances. And it obviously can't be compared to "social media sites", as that carries implicit connotation of for-profit sites.
What specifically would you say makes copyright law apply differently to lemmy.world?
That it doesn't matter if they're right or wrong, they can't afford the lawyers to fight it? Seriously pirates, there's an easy solution, just host your own instance.
Like I said, this isn't new ground being traversed. There is a pretty straightforward method for dealing with this that doesn't involve lawsuits unless the LW admins intentionally ignore the process.
People here are acting as if LW is some unique thing and that copyright law is an unknown entity. We know how this works. The person I responded to seems to think that LW is somehow unique, and I would like to understand their thought process.
Or spend that time creating your instance maybe?
This rebuttal you keep falling back on makes no sense. What do you think it's refuting?
Poor reading comprehension. You've said the same thing three times and every reply has nothing to do with what you said.
You are indeed very wise, fuckfuckmyfuckingass.
I only commented so I could type out your username haha.
Thanks Joe,
You have great reading comprehension!
How does it not make sense for you guys to be unhappy with how this instance works so you leave and take all of the responsibility on yourselves by creating your own instance?
I might end up leaving-- more for the ban stuff than the blocking piracy stuff-- but that's wholly beside the point when it comes to whether copyright law works like people are suggesting. It doesn't. The LW admins aren't going to be unexpectedly served papers for a lawsuit. They're going to get a boilerplate email with information on a claim of copyright infringement and they're going to remove the content without question and that will be the end of it.
Like I said, "just leave if you don't like it" has nothing to do with the point I'm making.
Meh, it just sounds like whining at best.
How does "that's not how this works" sound like whining? I can't tell if you're just not reading anything, or if you are desperately trying to have a different conversation with me than the one I'm having.
Lemmy.world does not have the ability to moderate posts on other instances. If lemmy.world gets a notice about something federating from another instance, how would they be able to do anything about it?
The local instance admins actually can hide posts and comments from other instances. Of course it only affect what the users see on their local instance.
More like a surgical strike, compared to the nuclear option of blocking entire communities.
Is this true? I understood the lemmy moderation capabilities that any post, even non-local ones, could be removed from an instance, and any user, even non-local ones, could be banned from a community or the entire instance.
Is this not the case?