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[–] PoliticallyIncorrect@lemm.ee 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Mexico should legalize all drugs.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 45 points 7 months ago (1 children)

USA should legalize all drugs.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Everywhere should legalize all drugs.

Tax that shit and put the money into rehab and education. Prohibition has only ever benefited criminals.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nah, decriminalise all drugs sure.

But shit like fentanyl, krokodil, etc. shouldn’t be actively promoted through ease of access.

[–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nobody is taking fentanyl or krokodil in world where uncut medical-grade opiates are available. Hell, even fentanyl can be dosed safely if it isn't coming from the unregulated black market.

Full legalization, full-stop. Drugs are so dangerous because we prohibit the existence of a safe, regulated market.

[–] theamigan@lemmy.dynatron.me -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

How the hell do you dose fentanyl safely outside of a clinical context? You cannot discern a lethal dose from a nonlethal dose with the naked eye.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Legalized doesn't mean unregulated, people went blind during prohibition due to dangerous moonshine but it's incredibly rare now as it's brought from licensed manufacturers.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

Tbh it's even rare with moonshine now. Idk if it's just the internet making knowledge more widely accessible but now people know to throw out the methanol (or "foreshots") for blinding reasons, and if you want it to be good throw the heads and tails too.

[–] theamigan@lemmy.dynatron.me 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's a property of fentanyl itself. I'm saying that outside of a clinical context, you don't have the instrumentation necessary to dose it.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

I'm suggesting reputable businesses could sell dosed mixtures just like they do in a clinical setting. A pill or solution with the appropriate amount.

[–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

What the hell part of "regulated" was so hard to understand?

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You're ignoring the part where they said that no one would be taking fentanyl because other opiates would be available. It was literally the first sentence.

People don't typically take it recreationally on purpose; it's usually because a low level dealer cut the drug and added fentanyl to it.

[–] WamGams@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

There are people on the street nowadays who prefer rent over heroin. It sounds crazy to non addicts, but the high is better for less money and it might actually be safe for people to knowingly buy fent and attempt correct dosing themselves rather than dosing for heroin but having cent laced.

Like, shit, that is dark and evidence the drug war has failed.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago

With regulated doses, probably in pill form, like any other fucking drug? Obviously they wouldn't be selling pure fentanyl powder

[–] Spacemanspliff@midwest.social 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The problem is, unless something is done about the cartels before hand, all that is going to do is legitimize them.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

When your entire industry is illegal in almost all of the world, it suddenly becoming legal tends to hurt the black market very badly.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

They should be granted amnesty in exchange for disarmament, among other things to drag them into legitimacy and abiding rule of law. It would have to be an undertaking comparable in scope to denazification post-WWII though.

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 8 points 7 months ago

Legalizing drugs doesn't mean there are no regulations. The FDA would have to control the quality of the drugs, and I bet the cartels don't exactly have quality control.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Cartels make an estimated $20-30 billion a year selling drugs to the U.S.

If the FDA regulates and we make our own, you just cut out all that money from them. Their influence goes down greatly. Also feeds the money back into our economy and the taxes on it can help us line our politicians pockets, oops I mean help fund healthcare

[–] Spacemanspliff@midwest.social 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah, but the comment I'm replying to specifically said mexico should legalize, that wouldn't change the us demand at all.