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[–] Midnight@slrpnk.net 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't be so confident that his support will wane. People love a martyr and thats what hes protraying himself as.

All that isnt to say he shouldn't be prosecuted, but I'd expect his support to jump in the short term.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You don't understand. We're not talking about just any people here. Republicans want to win. They don't want to lose.

Martyrs gain support for ideas. Republicans don't have ideas or policies. They like and support hierarchy. Remember, the original conservatives were monarchists and helped the British against George Washington.

It's like a sports team. If you win, people like you more. It doesn't matter if everyone is against you. Winners are liked more than losers. No one buys someone's jersey because they're a martyr.

[–] Midnight@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Plenty of people rooted for the Lions and they wore brown bags over their heads.

Trump lost and people are still buying flags and hats.

I think we'll be stuck with this cult for awhile.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah, that's because Trump's image is being rich and successful. He didn't build his brand on being president. He's loud, crude, and gets away with it because he has money. Take away any of those things and no one will care.

Like imagine if he lost his voice. Or suddenly became less crude. People would lose interest. Remember when he got Covid and had no energy? He looked a shell of his former self. People stopped listening to him.

Him losing money is just like that. His fans would stop caring about him.

[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Think Scar and the hyenas. Or think Redmask and the K'Chain Che'Malle, if you're that way inclined.

While their glorious leader is being assailed, they will fight and die in his name, definitely. How dare the weak attack the strong?

But once his plot-armour falls off and the punches actually land? The plot-armour is what they worship in the first place. That's their whole MO, their entire paradigm. They need a bigger, more-invulnerable bully above them to give them cover, and an underclass of vulnerable-therefore-contemptible victims beneath them to make them feel both powerful and vindicated every time they oppress them.

If you upset that whole structure, and show their leader to be vulnerable... where does that leave them? How do they regain their honour?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Scar and the hyenas.

The hyenas turned on Scar the moment he made it clear he would throw them under the bus to avoid leaving Pride Rock. Trump has been throwing republicans under the bus for 8 years now, and they still haven't turned. What I'm saying is the hyenas are much smarter than Republicans.