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Ok, it is a bit disconcerting that she was so easily able to fraudulently obtain mail-in ballots. But fraudulent ballots =/= fraudulent votes. I assume there’s a method in place for verifying the authenticity of a mail-in ballot. I’m sure they check it against voter rolls. What was she trying to prove, that it’s too easy to get a mail-in ballot? Not exactly a voter fraud smoking gun 🤷♂️
Well, she was deputy director of the local election commission. Not surprising that she could get them. The fact that she was caught so easily, even when she's at a relatively high level in the system, suggests the system does work.
The article was kind of vague, but I read it to mean she obtained the fraudulent ballots using methods available to the public, not in her official capacity.
I have no idea how it’s done in WI, but here in MA:
My understanding is that when city hall receives it that it goes through the following process:
On Election Day those envelopes are opened and the ballots are counted.
If at any point in the process a discrepancy occurs then a formal investigation is launched. This includes receiving more than one ballot from an individual, somebody showing up to vote in person after a mail-in ballot was received for them , etc.
She did get caught
The article said she sent the fraudulent ballots to her Republican representative, I'm guessing to say "look how easy it is to get fraudulent ballots" since her rep is a conspiracy theorist who thinks the election was stolen. I'm curious if there's a mechanism in place to catch people obtaining fraudulent ballots who don't literally send proof of their crime to an elected official.
Hmm that's a good point but the article doesn't explicitly say. It does mention another person getting caught for the same thing. It does say she made up the names and social security numbers, I can't imagine anyone could get away with that since the ballots would be verified when counted. Either way I love the fact these people prove themselves wrong and then go to jail for it
Edit: you're right WaPo reports the lawmaker turned her in
Definitely my favorite part of the story. I'm sure that once the ballots are cast there's some sort of verification process, because why the hell wouldn't there be...I guess I'm just confused as to why there's no verification when the ballots are requested in the first place. It's one thing to commit identity theft and use a real person's name and SSN, but the fact that you can just make up a name and SSN and get a ballot sent you you baffles me.