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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez asked former Biden family associate Tony Bobulinski about what crimes he alleges he witnessed President Biden commit during a House Oversight Committee hearing. CNN's Melanie Zanona breaks down the exchange.

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[–] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is the conversation everyone should have with police when they demand ID.

[–] pmmeyourtits@ani.social 42 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That may get you shot.

Instead, read and react based on this article https://www.rocketlawyer.com/family-and-personal/general-legal-matters/legal-guide/police-stops-know-your-rights-when-pulled-over-or-questioned#:~:text=After%20you%20speak%20with%20the,is%20a%20crime%20in%20itself.

It's consistent with what I've seen other lawyers say and remember when the police are near it's always Shut The Fuck Up Friday.

[–] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you're pulled over they can make up a crime, the laws around driving and vehicles are almost endless. Give them your ID. But if you're just on the sidewalk or something, start recording and ask them what crime you're suspected of. "Suspicious" or "I got a call" is not a crime.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Also don't do two crimes at once. For example, you can either jaywalk or have crack in your pocket. But don't do both. Prioritize - it's the key to success.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying that I should finish plotting to overthrow the government of Myanmar and THEN rob a bank rather than try to do both at the same time?

[–] rhadamanth_nemes@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Nah that's just efficiency.

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You have an inalienable right to stfu. Use it.

[–] pmmeyourtits@ani.social 5 points 7 months ago

Every day is Shut the fuck up Friday

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Am I being detained? Goodbye.

That's the extent of the conversation you should have with cops

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Here in CO you can be legally detained for 24 hours for no reason last time I checked. While you have every right to refuse ID when it's within your right, I'm much more likely to just hand it over rather than risk being detained overnight. Which sucks.

[–] DrMorose@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That is not true. They still need probable cause to detain you, and if they have that they can actually hold you up to a max of 72 hrs before they must file actual charges. But for a stop they can only detain you in so long to effect the investagory period. That can take however long but for say a traffic stop should be like 20-30 minutes.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

A few people in the Atlanta jail died while having no charges filed.

S'true.

Holland had been in jail since May 2023, waiting to find out if the DA’s office was going to prosecute him on charges of Aggravated Assault on a Law Enforcement Officer and Obstruction.

Holland is the eleventh inmate to die in the jail in the past year--the first death in 2024.