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and reminder that the opportunity cost of a few days’ strike is far outweighed by teachers being overworked to the bone without adequate compensation or psychological support, resulting in the best teachers weeding themselves out of the field altogether.

anti-union sentiment is hurting kids.

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[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

love forcing words into another’s mouth, it’s my favorite thing to do online

[–] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"Without them" implied that with them (status quo) the consequences listed would not be occurring.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

goodness gracious. each phrase following “without them” was a phrase describing a growth scenario of something that already exists:

  • “would be even more overpopulated”
  • “would skyrocket”
  • “wealth gap” -> “wealth chasm”

…implying that with the status quo the consequences listed would still be occurring, but stating that without teachers it would be worse. please. ohmygosh.

without teachers reading comprehension would dive out of control but it’s already pretty bad. 😪😪😪

[–] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

How about

parents would have to pay for daycare, children would go without lunch, etc.

? Are parents not already forced to pay for daycare, children not already going without lunch?

Edit:formatting

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

bruh. okay nitpick that then instead of saying

you mean everything (emphasis mine) you mention isn’t already happening in multiple states?

and maybe you’d get a helpful answer like as follows:

in most cases in US education, school serves multiple functions in addition to education, including taking care of kids during business hours (childcare) and feeding them one meal a day (in some cases; lunch). in the top level comment, the poster intended to express that, if all teachers/schools disappeared in a hypothetical thanos-snap scenario, all parents would be forced to cover the additional costs of watching their kids while they are away at work and of paying for that additional lunch.

such a scenario is entirely unrelated to current tragedies wherein children are going without lunches due to school board decisions, because, again, this is a hypothetical expressing the labor done by educators. the point is teachers are good things, and commenter makes that point by saying how without teachers things are worse. no one ever said things aren’t already bad, but that’s the assumption you made for some reason.

[–] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Shipmate, I'm pointing out that the system as it already stands is pretty much exactly as shit as they say it would become should the situation change. Each attempt to merely increase wages here and there is like putting a bandage on a gangrenous wound or a tumor, instead of realizing that the tumor itself needs to be surgically removed for all these symptoms - the American prison system, for-profit childcare, normalized hunger as a punishment for poverty and so on - to be actually treated. Believe it or not, I'm on your side.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

see my edit. and i don’t know what shipmate means.

[–] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Force of habit from almost a decade in the Navy, it's a term of "endearment" that was intended by politicians and bureaucrats to be a "polite" term that can be universally applied regardless of rank, but is usually applied out of exasperation when actual insult isn't warranted. Apologies for the unfamiliar term.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

oh lol i thought it was some chess reference i somehow was unaware of

[–] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It would totally make sense for some sailor to use it that way too after a night on liberty in port, but alas no.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 8 months ago

thanks for the clarification :) i believe you are on my side but im still gonna maintain that you badly maligned the meaning of the commenter’s post lol. i put the remainder of my thoughts here