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[–] Fal@yiffit.net -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That is literally the only reason the second amendment gives. ‘We need farmers to bring guns when we first-act-of-Mulan them, so don’t go limiting that.’

They weren’t so you could fight the army.

So are you just unaware of how the country was founded? That the citizens did exactly that in order to be free from england? Did the framers just forget about that?

Who is allowed to own guns is a game of what-if. Who does own guns is reality.

It's really not a game of what ifs. It's a matter of not repeating history, not making things worse and concentrating the power even more in the hands of the fascists

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Idiot troll pretends an army fighting another army is a contradiction.

Fuck off, old child.

You have been proven wrong on every single point you've tried to make, and not a goddamn word of it gets through your skull, because your worldview depends on not understanding it.

[–] Fal@yiffit.net -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You have been proven wrong on every single point you’ve tried to make

Lol what?

and not a goddamn word of it gets through your skull

Yes, because I can read. Like, the original source, the 2nd amendment, heller decision, contemporaneous writings by the founding fathers, other states constitutions with even more explicit verbiage. So I'm the one who doesn't get it as you beg the fascist government to disarm you. Lol ok

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You don't know what a militia is and you think the British were fought by, I dunno, some guys.

You've read things and absorbed only what feels like it validates your worldview. You have no idea why anyone would do anything else. You do not care what words mean.

Useless patience vampire.

[–] Fal@yiffit.net -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You don’t know what a militia is

It's literally every male. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246

You’ve read things and absorbed only what feels like it validates your worldview.

You're projecting

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So only men can own guns?

Only men aged 18-45?

No. Obviously not. But you demonstrably do not give a shit about the first half of the sentence, despite all this bickering. You treat the conversation as some pitched battle of tone instead of a mutual effort to find fact.

Defining a militia only matters if you're going to muster them, which we don't do anymore. We might as well talk about who's eligible to get deputized to catch fugitive slaves.

[–] Fal@yiffit.net -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But you demonstrably do not give a shit about the first half of the sentence

We've already been through this. The first part does not limit the second part. It's incredibly clear from the direct text, as well as contemporaneous writing of the founders who wrote it

We might as well talk about who’s eligible to get deputized to catch fugitive slaves.

You're the only one bringing up militia.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You’re the only one bringing up militia.

Motherfucker it is the first subject of the one sentence we are arguing about. A sentence which goes 'X being needed for Y, let's do Z.' The first part is the only stated reason for the second part. And your stuck ass can't figure out why it keeps coming up.

Oh, no, sorry, this is your goal-oriented reading comprehension: 'we might as well talk about it' in the sense that we don't fucking do that anymore, which is kind of important when it is the only stated reason for the thing we're fucking talking about.