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[–] Lilith_the_serpent@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Pointing fingers is a necessary step in identifying the problem, and the problem is the system itself and the people who run it. You can't have infinite growth in a finite system. It's not logical, let alone possible. And since we are living in a patriarchy, yeah, I'm pointing fingers. It's not men individually that are the problem. They are subject to the same stereotypical gender roles as women. It's the archaic idea that men have to be the bread winners and protectors while the women stay home and pop out kids. It's great for the economy after all.

The American Dream died when Reagan was elected, but for some reason, it's still dangled like a carrot. The patriarchal society started when organized religion became a thing. The big 3 religions are patriarchal by nature. It's written in doctrine. They have a lot of influence in politics. Christianity specifically. God said, "take of the earth. Go forth and multiply." See? Capitalism is written into the very foundational teachings Christianity, a patriarchal religion, with more than their fair share of political influence. It's too much stress for the human psyche to handle, and now there is a nation of people struggling to live up to standards that are complete nonsensical fairy tales. Not a good thing for mental health.

Patriarchal Capitalism had its run. Now the world is burning and flooding at the same time. It's a failed system.

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I generally agree with what you're saying. Identifying who is perpetuating these issues is important, but I would argue understanding why they perpetuate them is more important. Patriarchy IS a problem, late stage capitalism IS a problem. But simply identifying those problems solves nothing. More important and interesting questions to me are: Why does the patriarchy exist and how can we dismantle it? And is there an alternative to capitalism and how to we implement it?

As much as I hate capitalism I have yet to hear a single viable alternative, I only hear how bad it is. Personally I think capitalism has incredible benefits for society and with regulation and an all encompassing social safety net is a 'fine' system.

[–] Lilith_the_serpent@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Except that since our world is not infinite, capitalism will be the end of it. Corporate control and ownership of the country is what needs to end. Trickle down economics are a lie that just sucks the wealth out of our economy and puts it in the pockets of the wealthy elite. Because of this, our children will suffer the consequences for the rest of their lives, and their kids, and their kids, until there are no more natural resources, no more middle class, and no more breathable oxygen.

The only way to stop it is by taxing corporations at least 70% and shifting the control of these corporations to the state, completely outlaw all religious influence in politics, and redistribute the wealth back into the economy with monthly stimulus checks to all adult citizens. The taxes on corporations would be more than enough to pay for universal Healthcare, food for the poor, housing for the homeless, and free education.

So, either we need a modernized version of communism with protections in place for the populous, or we continue with capitalism and increase funding to social programs. That will never happen under our current system, so we are doomed.

[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 months ago

Let's be real. The Patriarchal Tier have agreed to commit global suicide because it's time for women to take over via the Astronomically measured Yin Yang of LIFE. Men in Charge are refusing to hand over control and oil is the tool of murdering everyone. We're all suckers of their infliction of death itself: OIL. Deadlier a Deity than even Mushrooms. Mushrooms have a choice. Oil will murder everyone.

What I'm really saying is that it's NOT a failed system. It is committing the act it was subscribed to for exactly what it causes. Suicide and nothing else.

Make's OP's point the best description of what I've seen yet.