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[–] Rand0mA@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago (3 children)

That because we are free from god or gods that we have no moral compass. I consider myself a good person and I have good moral standards. I don't need fear from punishment after death to do so.

Also that we have no spirituality.. Spirituality and religion kinda go hand in hand but aren't mutually exclusive. That being said, I have no desire for either religion or spirituality. Maybe when I'm closer to the later chapters

[–] pfannkuchen_gesicht@lemmy.one 22 points 8 months ago

From my experience many religious people have questionable moral standards.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago

That because we are free from god or gods that we have no moral compass.

The scariest thing is someone claiming that only religion imparts morals and ethics.

Because if the only thing stopping a person from raping and killing and causing pain and anguish is the religion they have… dude, THEY ARE the monster everyone needs to be afraid of.

My own morals and ethics aren’t forcibly imposed on me by an outside force like a religion, ready to snap apart and break off with the smallest of stresses.

No, it is built up inside of me via empathy and understanding and personal experiences, and is therefore a core part of my being and far more immune to corruption or breakage.

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

The "no spirituality" really resonates with me. I didn't believe in spirituality for a long time, in the same way I don't believe in the supernatural (Gods etc).

It was only recently that I realized that you can be spiritual and still have a more logical view of how the world works. The mind is a very powerful thing, and things like ritual and meditation can absolutely manifest things simply through its effect on our thoughts and behaviors.

For instance, lately I've been learning Tarot. Just a few years ago I would've thought Tarot is a complete waste of time, but it's actually an incredible way to explore problems from different perspectives and get a better sense for how you feel about things in a more abstract way.