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[–] Zyansheep@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is every ideology also a process where people learn from their past attempts at achieving the ideology?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 2 points 1 year ago

Correct, and the beneficiaries of capitalism have learned very well.

[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, but this is the very core of socialism, or the whole concept of scientific marxism

[–] sab@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think it's important to distinguish socialism and Marxism here, since you're referring pretty specifically to Marxist theory.

That said, you're not wrong - Marx postulates that history moves through a continuous fight between classes, and that on average we move towards a more equal society over time as a result of this fight. The fall of the monarchy was the result of class struggle, but so was the fall of the Soviet union; the Bolsheviks had just replaced the ruling elite, walking on two legs in Orwells terms. In this sense, every revolution could be understood under the logic of Marxism, as "the history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles".

But then we're speaking about a Marxist understanding of history, not a socialist ideal for society.