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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Weird framing in the headline. Like taking weight loss drugs is some kind of scandal?

[–] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Taking weight loss drugs is not a scandal, taking weight loss drugs while being on the board of a commercial diet program is.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Only after they themselves admitted that nobody in this country has the self-control to eat a balanced diet, which used to be their main product, as odd as that sounds.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Diet programs that you pay for are designed to cause you to fail on your own.

It's not that no one can eat a balanced diet, it's that there's a huge financial incentive to them to keep you from learning to fend for yourself.

Weight loss isn't easy. You can shoot off the mechanics of just eating less and sure, anyone who eats less than they normally do will lose weight. If it were actually that simple no one would ever struggle. There are underlying emotional issues, motivation issues, cravings, fear, habits, social pressures, and any number of unnamed complications that keep people fat. A super restrictive prescribed diet is probably what's in order but you can't just pull the trigger on that and expect it to stick. Whatever program that happens to be. All of this leads to cycles of trying and failing to lose weight. Sometimes you take a few pounds of, sometimes you take a lot of pounds off, then you stop and gain it all back.

Weight watchers, and programs like it, prey on that cycle of failure. The weight loss drugs are only another symptom of that

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Weight Watchers really wasn’t. It was an all in and group related program that existed since, like, the 50s. It was an invested program that was really honestly designed for you to succeed.

Things had probably changed since the late 90s and early odds, however. But the entire program was really designed to get people on a program of eating low calorie meals and to get people into the habit of eating low calorie meals on the long-term. It was probably the one, stand out program, that honestly worked Well for the people who actually stuck to the program.

That was the point of Weight Watchers. It was designed to train people to do the one thing that actually worked to lose weight: counter calories, and eat, reasonably sized and reasonably portioned meals. Even after you stopped buying the Weight Watchers branded meals, you would know to counter calories, and only eat as much as you should eat for each meal. As many calories, and as reasonably sized portions. It trained people to eat as much as they should eat. That’s why it was so successful for over half a century.

It’s too bad that, nowadays, it’s a bunch of bullshit like anything else. But, for over 60 years, it actually was a real thing that worked for a great many people.

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[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

I don't know why they didn't branch out into exercise equipment and videos. Those were very popular in the 80s and 90s. They really should have.

Honestly if you want to lose weight you need to "change your lifestyle". Not in a weird kooky cult way, just buy some jogging shoes (with insoles) and an outfit that looks good. Like spend $250 on your exercise outfit. You will want to wear it and eventually go for a walk.

I can't overemphasize the insoles. Skinny people never tell you to get them, probably because the regular shoe insoles work fine for them. Fat people need special sports foam insoles. Your knees and ankles will feel amazing.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net -3 points 8 months ago
[–] aelwero@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

'I've got to do this on my own,'" she said last September. "Because if I take the drug, that's the easy way out."

Apparently there's a perception that it matters... You'll see it with smoking cessation too. Gotta do shit the absolute hardest way possible or you're somehow "cheating"...

Wouldn't want people to have taken the easy way to not fucking dying :/

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago

As someone else pointed out — Weight Watchers shifted its focus to weight loss drugs. Not sure what the scandal is here. Oprah is a weight watchers spokesperson, weight watchers hooks you up with weight loss drugs, Oprah loses weight on said drugs proving it works. ???