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The “uncommitted” vote in Michigan way outperformed expectations last night, reflecting Democratic unhappiness with Joe Biden’s support for Israel’s brutal war. He should change course on Gaza immediately.

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[–] snipgan@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No that is not true. Biden had two other opponents in this primary, so he wasn't "against literally No one."

And he won this state by a bigger margin in the last election compared to "undecided" voters in this primary.

The constant goal post moving and dishonesty about this primary ahs been quite disgusting.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

two others

Who didn’t get 100k votes. At best; 80k people specifically voted uncommitted in protest to Biden. And that’s generously subtracting the “normal” 20k, despite the feeling of exit pollsters that no one who voted so, were not doing so in protest.

bigger margin

A margin that has almost certainly gotten smaller. 50k votes is practically nothing. Therefore it’s not dishonest to say that Michigan is in serious doubt.

dishonesty

Whose being dishonest? Are you seriously saying that Biden’s actions on Gaza aren’t hurting his election?

Edit: you can see the shrinking margin by looking at how many people voted and where:

the Republican had 1,104,385 people voting, with Trump getting 753,003 votes.

Democrats had 762,697 people voting, with Biden getting 618,426, and uncommitted getting 101,100 votes (81.1% and 13.3%)

It’s a bad expectation to say there won’t be more people voting in the regular election, but if we use it as a bellwesther, we can soundly say that Biden is most likely to loose Michigan. Particularly because history shows that republicans are more likely to fall in line than democrats.

In- as I’ve been saying for a while now- a repeat of ‘16. Where the only difference in rhetoric is that others are already blaming voters.