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VEGANISM!
It's great for your health, we'd solve like 25% of the climate catastrophe overnight and it redeems billions of our fellow earthlings from the unimaginable suffering we inflict on them 24/7.
It's a ridiculously obvious and easy step we should take as a species, yet even hardcore leftists turn into irrational idiots and go full Bullshit Bingo when you bring it up. Because they have become accustomed to a taste.
I think it’s less veganism and more how noisy and evangelical the loudest vegans are.
If you’d just said veganism, I’d agree, but you went on to emphatically tell us all the reasons why veganism is better. All legit, sure, but all the underlining gives it a particularly condescending tone. It’s not veganism that irritates me, it’s how condescending so many vegans become. Same camp as CrossFit for me. They’re both cultures I don’t really care to be a part of.
Eating animals is doing so much harm on a personal and global scale, yet people mostly choose to ignore it. So we get louder to confront your cognitive dissonance. I know it is annoying to you, I was annoyed too. But it's necessary and it's working. We're not a cult, quite the opposite: Vegans act according to scientific facts. Do you want to have a heart attack? No. Do you like torturing animals? No! Do want to wreck our planet to the point our children won't be able to live on it anymore? If course not. Veganism is not the only answer to all this, but no solution will suffice without us stopping to abuse animals. Think about that when you're out in the supermarket next time. It feels good to actually live up to you ethical values.
Also, #7 and #30, bingo!
Excellent example. Thanks.
For the record, there’s no dissonance. I know well what I’m doing and recognize that I am choosing the easier option. Call me a villain, I don’t care. I live my life as best I can and to the best of my ability which you’ve made it clear is immoral and lesser than you.
So 10 years ago it was "STFU, you're wrong", now it's "STFU, you're right"? Changing diet is a journey, I didn't go full vegan from one day to the other. I'm sure you're not a villain and hope you change your mind sometime. There are many great plant-based foods waiting for you on the shelves.
Best thing I ever did for myself.
I try to tell people to ditch beef as a compromise. I'm flexetarian myself and try to avoid meat, but beef is by far the worst offender when it comes to climate.
I think the average person doesn't want to give up all meat dairy and eggs all in one go. Removing beef is highly effective and a first step into a more conscious diet.
Eggs are a super food, too. They're cheap, delicious, and have dense nutrition. And, if you live anywhere close to rural, you can get farm-fresh eggs from ethically treated, well fed chickens for cheap.
We minimize our meat consumption, but we eat lots of eggs, and I don't see any ethical concerns with people's backyard chicken coops.
Pretty much what I did. Meat once a week and almost always birds. Maybe a hamburger or pho twice a year, and always with my family.
I have been toying with baking the last two months and vegan bread is a challenge. It isn't just taste. Take my basic bread and cut out milk+butter and all I have left is oil. The bread rises funny and the crust is totally different. Yes I have tried a good friend of mine has a dairy allergy.
Just saying it isn't like there is a ready solution I can grab.
I agree, changing your diet is something you need to be willing to do, because it takes time to learn new things. Some take babysteps, some go all in. It is possible to cook and bake delicious food without animal products. So have fun learning!
Vegan.bingo that’s amazing I’m gonna just refer to that for every one of those conversations from now on
The dead animal flesh is already there and I honor its sacrifice by eating it. That is my position and my purpose.