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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You would rather lose to fascists than compromise with leftists or progressives

The projection is strong in this one. You are literally saying you would rather have Trump win than compromise and vote for Biden.

I get it, Biden isn't the best choice. When the alternative is literal fascism the voters need to shut that down hard. Make the Republicans lose like they've never lost before to show it won't be tolerated. That will force them to run somewhat reasonable candidates in the future, which forces the Democrats to have to actually try.

A marginal Biden win doesn't teach Republicans anything and they keep running wannabe Dictators, letting the Democrats continue to not have to put any effort in other than saying "It's us or Dictators."

A Trump win means there won't be another election.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The projection is strong in this one. You are literally saying you would rather have Trump win than compromise and vote for Biden.

That's a matter of perspective. You want me to believe the only choice is between Biden and Trump. I'm telling you the only choice is between compromising with progressives and leftists or losing to fascists. You don't have to agree with me. But if you think I'm being sincere then you've got a decision to make.

I get it, Biden isn’t the best choice. When the alternative is literal fascism the voters need to shut that down hard.

So you're acknowledging moderates made a bad choice in the 2020 primaries? Which is especially selfish and foolish considering literal fascism is at stake? Where are your lectures for moderate voters? Have you lectured anyone who voted for Biden in the primaries?

Moderates continue to get a free pass to make selfish decisions in the primaries. Leftists and progressives compromised and showed up in the 2020 general election. Now it's time for the moderates and Biden to make some policy compromises.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

So you’re acknowledging moderates made a bad choice in the 2020 primaries?

Yup.

Which is especially selfish and foolish considering literal fascism is at stake?

Yes.

Where are your lectures for moderate voters?

Those were during the 2020 primaries.

Unfortunately that's the option we're stuck with now. I agree with not letting Dems have a free pass... unless the alternative is literal Fascism. When the Republicans are putting forward a candidate that won't dismantle democracy then go ahead and make your stand. Letting Fascists take over the government to stick it to the moderates is the definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face. "Women and minorities will die from lack of medical care, and I'll never be able to vote again. THAT will teach those moderates!"