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I'm looking for a way to create webpages without HTML, any tips? (lemmy.kde.social)

submitted 8 months ago by tubbadu@lemmy.kde.social to c/programming@beehaw.org

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Hello! I'll try to explain what I'm looking for: I sometimes have to write simple web pages (not just text, also buttons and video players and so on), but I really really hate writing html code. What I'm used to is QML, which I like a lot, because of the ease of placing objects exactly where I need using the anchors and the Layout objects. What I'm looking for is a language or something with a similar syntax, that can then be "built" to plain HTML/CSS/JS. Is there something like this? I know I can compile Qt/QML for webassembly, but I'm having huge amounts of problems, and also I'd like to have the possibility to have a plain HTML result, not necessary bind to the server side.

thanks in advance!!

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[–] dan@upvote.au 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What about a WYSIWYG editor app like Dreamweaver? I don't know if there's any good free ones any more though, now that FrontPage Express is gone.

Otherwise, a headless CMS with a nice editor could work too. Something like WordPress except it outputs static HTML rather than doing it dynamically

[–] flower3@feddit.de 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Ever heard of wix or squarespace? I think there is your reason these apps don’t exist anymore.

[–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Those platforms aren't ideal because you're locked in to the respective service. Something standalone (or even a CMS like WordPress) is good since you're not locked in - you can move to a different hosting provider, self-host it, more easily migrate to a different platform, etc.

We've always had similar platforms - in the 2000s we had Geocities, Angelfire, Tripod, etc. There's still a lot of value in actually owning your site.

[–] derbis@beehaw.org 5 points 8 months ago

Note that Wix is under boycott because it uses coercion against its employees to get them to publicly side with Israel

[–] frog@beehaw.org 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What about a WYSIWYG editor app like Dreamweaver? I don’t know if there’s any good free ones any more though, now that FrontPage Express is gone.

So weirdly enough, I posted about this earlier today in a different community. My use-case is different to OP's, so I don't think any of the options I'm investigating now would suit them, but the long and short of it is free, standalone WYSIWYG editors are really few and far between now.

[–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah I think headless CMSes are where it's at these days. A 'headless' CMS is one where editing and presentation are split into two parts, as opposed to it being used for editing and presentation (which is what traditional CMSes like WordPress, Joomla, CMSMS, etc do).

Usually you use the CMS to edit the site, but it just produces plain HTML so you don't need the CMS to serve the live site. The CMS could publish to a static file host like S3, Github Pages, etc.

There are even some that integrate into WordPress, meaning you use the WordPress admin section to write posts, but they then output plain HTML. Basically WordPress but without any potential security concerns since your users aren't actually hitting the WordPress server.

Having said that... 40%+ of the internet is powered by regular WordPress, so it's not going away any time soon.