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It's definitely an issue that's not going away. The DNC really needs to figure it out and stop pretending that it doesn't matter to voters.

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[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You need to go to bed and let the adults talk.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Liberals in their smug arrogance love to infantilize.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ozma's opinion is that of the optimistic juvenile. They're absolutely wrong, but it's going to take them one or more failed election cycles to learn that. It's OK to be optimistic, the realism will creep in later.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, this guy that first started voting during the Reagan years know that this approach is not wrong. What's juvenile is doing the same thing repeatedly election after election after election expecting different results from the exact same people that fucked us over the last time because of some big boogie man that they have sold you. 50 years of the supposed lesser evil has grown so enormous they don't even recognize what is evil any longer. Where they can witness the guy they support committing a genocide halfway around the world and they believe that the other guy is more dangerous. And claim that he is completely defenseless to prevent these deaths. If the exact same circumstances were happening with Trump in office, every single liberal in this country would be in an uproar and demand that he bring it to a stop insisting he has the power and the ability to bring it to a stop. But now claim that Biden is powerless.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Even if Biden were committing genocide in Gaza, which let's be 100% clear here, he is not.

Trump is not functionally different when it comes to Israeli policy and for the same reason... both Biden AND Trump want those fat, fat Israel PAC campaign contributions.

Where they differ is that Trump wants to bring the worst Israeli policies HERE.

Remember when Israel illegally invaded Lebanon to set up a "security zone"?

https://www.britannica.com/event/2006-Lebanon-War

Yeah, about that... Trump would do the same to Mexico.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-mexico-military-cartels-war-on-drugs-1234705804/

Oh, and... he'd jail his political opponents...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/30/trump-interview-jail-political-opponents-glenn-beck

and... he admits to wanting to be a dictator...

https://apnews.com/article/trump-hannity-dictator-authoritarian-presidential-election-f27e7e9d7c13fabbe3ae7dd7f1235c72

If you're legitimately serious about avoiding genocidal policies, your ONLY choice is to vote for Biden, because a Trump win will bring those policies here.

There is literally no comparison between Trump and Biden.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Trump wants to bring the worst Israeli policies HERE.

You mean like the 5 cop cities currently in the planning or building stage around the US that uses IDF for training? If we need to vote for the guy thats enabling a genocide so we dont get more genocide, thats an admission Biden is right wing.

One of the few promises Biden has kept is nothing will fundamentally change. Ive been around the block a few times and have seen this political song and dance several times. The only difference now is Trump is saying the quiet things out loud, exposing politics for the corruption thats its built on.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I don't know which other four you're talking about, but Atlanta's Cop City has been in the works since before Biden was elected and (as near as I can tell) has nothing to do with the IDF.

Frankly, the cops are bad enough without IDF help:

https://youtu.be/Wf4cea5oObY

Best 33 minutes you can spend today. I know it's a long watch, stick with it until you get to the bit on "Warrior Training".

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world -5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You better HOPE they replace Biden at the convention if you really want to defeat Trump.

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Seriously. Go sit in the corner and eat your paste, the adults are talking.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Don't cry to me when Dems lose then.

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

You're still not big enough to sit at the big table.

You're a child with a naive view and understanding of the world. You clearly have no idea what fascism actually is and you probably call your mother a nazi for telling you to take a shower or go to bed.

There is literally no one else that could gain enough support and name recognition to beat trump and the maggats hate fueled campaign combined with their gerrymandering.

One day you will grow up and see the world for what it really is and learn how to work with the systems we have instead of flailing around outside the system and never making a real difference. Hopefully that will happen before you retire in like 50 years.