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[–] gsfraley@lemmy.world 55 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Welp, looks like my next hardware isn't gonna be Dell πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 61 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

If you are buying a laptop, Framework is where it is at. Huge focus on a quality product as well as repairability and interoperability between parts.

[–] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 35 points 9 months ago

I have two of them, and I think they are great. That being said, they are significantly more expensive than similar options from Dell (or Lenovo, HP, etc.) They just don't have the volume of production needed to compete.

MAYBE you'll end up ahead with upgradability or repairability, but honestly, you're paying more to support good company practices.

I'm planning on keeping these laptops for a long time and upgrading when I need to, but we have to be realistic that most people aren't going to stomach a minimum of 30% premium for options they don't care about.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Do Frameworks still use that goofy resolution that makes it close to impossible scale the UI properly on Linux?

[–] ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

Yeah, but fractional scaling works fairly well on Wayland

[–] Lemonparty@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

Wasn't aware of this, thanks!

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I got fucked by them over a decade ago. Naively bought an Alienware for college. Burned out two motherboards on it while it was under warranty which they replaced. Naturally it burned out a third one outside of my warranty window which they refused to help with unless I paid them half the value of the laptop. Told them no thanks, instead I’ll tell everyone I know that their hardware is garbage.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

I've run into so many people who have had Dell laptops totally crap out / burn out on them. I saw several myself years ago through an old job. Mostly bad LCD displays right out of the box, but also an assortment of other problems. I vowed never to get a Dell computer of any kind after that.

Now in my current job we are forced to use refurbished Dell laptops. And guess what? All of them are total pieces of garbage. I've had two of them now. The first one became inoperable so they had to get me a new one. And now I find that the audio and USB ports are faulty on the new one.

I'm not surprised Dell is screwing over their lower-level employees, considering they consistently fuck over their customers. Fuck Dell.

[–] xpinchx@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Just sharing my experience here as well. I bought a Dell gaming monitor - it was a TN panel with gsync and 144hz it was quite expensive at the time.

Anyway, that piece of shit was replaced 5x under warranty. Faulty panel, backlight dying, lots of issues with input ports, broke firmware, etc. their warranty and service was top notch, but that was a lot to go through with a $500 piece of equipment. I bought an LG after that one died and have had 0 issues.

[–] Pheonixdown@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

I managed to get one of the "desktop replacement" laptops before they got sold to Dell, and that fucker was a solid brick shithouse, lasted like 7 years before functional issues. Heat was definitely a problem, couldn't rest my left hand on the keyboard (above the GPU) after a couple hours and could probably sit outside in a blizzard without pants comfortably. Miss that bad boy... Shame Dell ruined them.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My old dell server hardware is surprisingly crap as well

I've gone through 4 PSUs in the last 5 years

[–] bbkpr@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

IMO it's a bit surprising

I'd expect a company to at least sell decent hardware to their enterprise customers but I guess not in this case

[–] bbkpr@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

If it breaks, you can just sell them more πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 2 points 9 months ago

In EU at least there's a new law-mandated warranty period for the replaced part but I of course can't say if this holds true where you live.

[–] redditron_2000_4@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They are doing you a favor. I bought my kid a Dell laptop (xps13) for college and 6 months later the battery life dropped from 12 hours to 2 and Dell support said it was normal and refused to do anything about it. That was after the original order which was supposed to take 6 weeks for delivery (bad enough) actually took 14 weeks. It arrived two days before they left for school. Worst experience ever.

The replacement MacBook Air was delivered to their dorm the next day and has been flawless since (over a year now). It actually cost less too.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

I think the xps is garbage. My laptops never break. They become obsolete before they break except my xps13. Broke after the warranty. It’s the only laptop I’ve had do that.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Have you seen what they did to the XPS?? It's a tragedy.