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[–] ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No, I'm sorry, if a person was bullied for a year, that was the time for "due process" to protect them and society by preventing further harm. Now it is too late.

They caused someone to die by their violent actions, I am fully in favor of violent retaliation here, and as I said not looking to be convinced otherwise.

There are some things our society gets right, and some things it gets wrong. Passivity in the face of violence is a mistake IMO.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It's never too late for justice to be done. Though more of it has to done the later it is left. No one is talking passivity here. Everyone wants something done this time and done sooner next time.

Mob justice is not justice at all.

Edit: english

[–] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That is mob rule. It's not the rule of law.

[–] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That is not what mob rule is, and this literally has nothing to do with government

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Mob rule is the breakdown of law and order. Which a failing of governance.

[–] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You mean like we have now with psychotic and treasonous christofascists trying to destroy freedom while you complain about "law and order"?

You have never existed in the real world, buddy

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Freedom doesn't exist without law and order. Mobs lynch wrong people as often as not. It's why the legal system should be above politics. It amazes me America has politically appointed judges. The judiciary should be separate from, and independent of, the government. If the legal system doesn't work, law and order can break down and you get anarchy.

[–] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hey you're starting to get it!

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Then as long as we agree anarchy is bad we basically are agreeing.

[–] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Anarchy is indeed bad. Unfortunately you don't seem to grasp what anarchy is. Hint: it's not street justice.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Street "justice" is a break down of law and order. No one is accountable for the mob and is not held to any rules. How is that an outbreak of anarchy?

[–] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You really are desperate to defend fascists, aren't you?

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

Really not, screw them, but with a functioning justice system. Mob justice is no justice at all.

[–] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Your "law and order":

This Black History Month remember human trafficking was legal. Slavery was legal. Jim Crow was legal. US Govt paying reparations to white enslavers but not to the enslaved was legal. Prison slavery still IS legal.

Do not let legality & power be a measure of morality & justice. -Qasim Rashid

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Law isn't perfect, and must constantly be challenged, but law based democracy is the best society humans have come up with. Plenty of bad law, for example, the war on drugs is stupid, like prohibition alcohol was. But mob lynching can do be part of any justice system.

[–] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You sound like a guy who'd be trying to reason with Nazi Stormtroopers as they were shoving you into the boxcar. No great injustices were ever solved through nonviolent means. None.Power does not abdicate itself because you begged for it to.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Nazi haven't taken over law yet. In the UK at least, they are going to be losing a lot of power next election. The US is looking screwed. As always, I'm glad I don't live there.

[–] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do you know how many times we heard that they were gonne lose the next election?...or that they couldn't possibly pass such a bill here? UK is at even greater risk from what I gather.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

Even they think they are going to lose the election. They are so far behind in the polls, both opinion and by-elections, it will take quite an event to change things.