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Police doing police shit: "They drove away ... indicating that we think they were outsiders." Uhauls can be rented and picked up anywhere. Pigs won't lift a finger to stop nazis.
It's not their job, our constitution protects nazi protestors the same way it protects climate protestors. The right to assembly.
Confronting these things is our job, as citizens. Not the police's job. If they weren't causing any trouble, then the police are supposed to let them be, for better or for worse.
I think the thing in this case is that it is the job of police to pull over a box truck full of human cargo. The implication here is so you think they'd have let a truck they knew was full of immigrants just drive away?
Right, they didn't have seat belts, they should get tickets.
not just tickets but checked for outstanding warrants and plain ol' pressured to ID themselves before being allowed to leave
JUST LIKE THE COPS DO TO LIBERALS PROTESTING
They would at the least be booked on charges that will obviously not stick, so that there face and name becomes public data and they get added to lists by political rivals. This was the MO throughout 2020, there were several popular twitter accounts that would just post the mugshots and names of people arrested, the majority of which weren't charged or often weren't even part of the protest but ended up doxxed and harrassed by chuds.
Fair point.
It's not cops job to pull over dozens of people not following traffic laws like wearing a seatbelt?
Sure seems like it's literally their job, but they just didn't want to do it when it Nazis. Wonder why that is?
TN only requires seat belts for driver and front seat passengers. It's even perfectly legal to ride in a truck bed on a highway.
F'n hillbillies.
It's neat that this is a consideration now that it benefits nazis.
It has always been this way.
Nazi ideology is explicit violent and encourages murder of non-white people and others, there is no constitutional protection for literally threatening someone's life even if only through words.
If you menancingly say to someone "I'm going to kill you" you can be charged with a crime for that in the US. Supporting Naziism is little different than saying "I encourage the murder of Jews and other non-Aryans."
I like that line of reasoning. Would probably be tough to get the SC to rule that way though, in the current judicial climate.
They need to be baited to say the quiet part out loud so everyone's aware
You're almost there. Yes their primary role is to protect capital interests through systemic oppression. They selectively enforce certain laws over others.
They will beat down peaceful leftist and progressive demonstrations through the enforcement of petty law breaking like jay walking. I've been witness to this. They could do this here but they choose not to because capitalism requires systemic racism.
Their primary role is whatever the local governance makes it. There is no universal set of regulations governing local police. Though we might need some.
Additionally, what one person witnesses and attests to is not a sound basis for making policy decisions.
All that said, I do agree that leftist protestors frequently get treated more harshly than right-wing protestors, and that is a problem we need to address.
Thanks for invalidating my experience and those of black and brown people across the US. It is a systemic issue, their job is policing capital interests. History books and plenty of fields of study show this.
I didn't intend any offense, but validating individual personal experiences is not what policy is for. It's a statistical thing. Those fields of study are vastly more valuable than any anecdotes, which can be subject to a lot of different potential problems.
Particularly on the internet, which is absolutely full of people saying shit that is not actually true, and pretending to be things they are not.
It's not personal, it's very coldly impersonal. On purpose. I would discount an individual experience regardless of who the person was, or what they said.
Nazis marching are an explicit threat to all minorities and queer people. It should be treated as any other threat of violence is- as a violation of the law and disallowed.
You are right of course.
I don't think the Constitution should protect them. Hell, I don't even think laws against murder should protect them.
But they do. If they break the law, throw the book at them. Until then, it's our job to try and change the law or fight them on other fronts, such as in civil court, like they are doing in Massachusetts.
Childish take.
Tolerance will never extend to protect intolerance. Hate and violence will never be considered protected. It's not "for better or worse" douche, it's for WORSE because they are a violent hate group that wants to kill. Is this really so hard to comprehend?
lol No, it's not. However, the law is not subject to any kind of broader ethics. It's subject to laws written by people, whoever those people are and whatever they want, and the interpretations, which are again, done by people.
The law is not inherently "good", so the ethical interpretation of it is just one consideration. The law is blind.
If everyone voted for nazis, and those nazis made laws banning being jewish on pain of death, then that is what the law would do. This is why we need to rely on ourselves, as citizens, to fight this battle and not merely hope in the law.
No, the law forbids hate speech at least in my country. As it should.
Just remember the importance of fighting to keep that law in place. They can change laws, and even constitutions, if we let them.