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[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Remind me, why do you guys not like Assange (or WikiLeaks by extension) again? Is it just the Clinton leaks stuff?

[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If he were interested in bringing things to light he would have released all the information he had, but he didn't, he held back for US Conservatives. He did right-wing politics in the US a big favor.

He has an agenda, and it's not press freedom.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

>If he were interested in bringing things to light he would have released all the information he had, but he didn’t, he held back for US Conservatives. He did right-wing politics in the US a big favor.

what makes you think he had something to release?

[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He leaked information from the DNC, but never released the same email logs for the RNC. He was given both following a known hack of both the DNC and the RNC. He released 1 side, and then tried promote the conspiracy about Seth Richs death.

He has an agenda. Wikileaks is a good idea, but I don’t buy that it didn't have a state backer.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

what makes you think he was given the rnc information?

[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Because we know for a fact the information was taken from both as part of the same breach of the RNC and DNC servers by Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear, Russian state actors.

If Assange was not aware of the additional information from the breach that's just as bad, because he's happy to be a useful idiot with a fanbase.

So he's either malicious or stupid. Neither is worthy of admiration.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 9 months ago

there is a possibility that nothing from the rnc was that damning (i doubt this), or he felt that releasing it would dilute the seriousness of both sets of accusations.

but this is assuming he had access to the rnc hack, and that is not proven.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 9 months ago

this does not entail that they handad that information to assange.

[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You? Who are you talking to? I, for one, like him

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Oh no I like Assange. I have heard some people before saying negative things about WikiLeaks and by extension Assange so I asked. My understanding was they think/thought it's beholden to the Kremlin or something.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

I mean I don't think it's beholden to the Kremlin, but I do think that Julian Assange participated in the same type of secretive disinformation campaign that he claimed to vehemently oppose. I also think he's not really a man driven by principles, but one driven by ego and fame.

I also think he, like 90% of powerful men involved in tech, probably uses his position of power to sexually harass women.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 9 months ago

it could also be chelsea manning. some people cant get enough of that five-sided dick.