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[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 56 points 9 months ago (5 children)

It would backfire like Brexit. Imagine the USA openly shunted by all former allies about their war crimes and other international crimes. The US forgets they currently can get away with a lot, and they do, because they are also an important ally. If you remove their NATO support, what reason is left to whistle ignorance?

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The US forgets they currently can get away with a lot, and they do, because they are also an important ally

I think it's only Trump who forgets this not the US. I am not even sure he understands it really

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

It's not only Trump.

It's also Trump voters and voters who stay at home and let him back into office.

I'll be pleasantly surprised if a majority of American voters turn out against him.

Last time it was about 1 in 3 voted for him, 1 in 3 voted against him, and 1 in 3 didn't show up.

[–] gun@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The US getting held accountable for it's war crimes? Sounds too good to be true.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah, can y'all vote Trump meow?

/S kinda

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Brexit was a disaster because the UK economy was third-place-and-shrinking in the economic block. They had no leverage.

NATOXIT would be a much bigger deal, because the US is the premier global military power and the single largest exporter of weapons and associated tech.

Also, the NATO thing is pure bluster in order to assert leverage over the bloc, while Brexit was a dog-catching-the-car scenario. The Tories invented so many fictions about how awful EU membership was that they couldn't accept what generous concessions were offered. Meanwhile, Trump will happily take a big personal kickback for a small concession on arms sales.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago

Backfiring to Boris looks a lot different than backfiring to Trump. Boris Johnson, even though he's a piece of shit, still cares about England. Trump only cares about himself and would let Putin waltz right into the War Room if he wanted to.