"We want the Stop Russia Invading Shit Alliance to be further away from Russia! To prove we're serious, Russia will invade countries that aren't yet part of the alliance."

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if you guys realize that Russia is achieving it's war objectives? West-Ukraine won't join NATO anytime soon, because they know what will happen. This war also has seriously long term destabilizing effects on Europe - at least on their democracies (refugees, tax burden / austerity).

It's ludicrous to say that Russia's protests about NATO are bogus - because they protested about it for decades, ever since the US broke their agreement with Gorbachev to not expand NATO eastwards. It's just a historical fact that you want to alter in order to justify not negotiating. I'm used to these "alternative facts" level of brainwashing from trumpists but not from liberals.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

More countries joined NATO, Russia's slaughtering a generation of Russians, their money is gone, their equipment is gone, and their big scary mercenary force openly tried to overthrow the government. Wow. What victorious progress.

At this rate NATO's gonna disband because there won't be a Russia.