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[–] CluelessLemmyng@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, the comments show who read the article and who didn't. It's really not hard to see that the court was looking for a history of conscientious objection and didn't find any proof, instead finding arguments to the contrary.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Hang on, because I'm morally opposed to war and violence, but I'm not out attending rallies or protests. While my arthritic old body isn't what anyone wants in battle, if I were healthy, and we had a draft, I'd be a conscientious objector with no history of activism.

Would South Korea put me in jail?

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works -5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Would you have never mentioned this to anyone, knowing your country has mandatory service? Never protested about mandatory military service? Are you not even a member of an anti-military group? In many countries you have the option of joining. When you don't have an option not being involved doesn't make sense.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, it doesn't come up very often, and discussing politics and morality is considered impolite. I don't join "groups" but I don't see how that makes a difference.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works -1 points 9 months ago

The point being that if you are a conscientious objector in a country with mandatory service and few exceptions, perhaps you should do some stuff as evidence for that. Otherwise you experience the consequences of inaction. In an ideal world armies don't exist and if so joining would be entirely voluntary but we don't live in an ideal world.

[–] Traegert@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The draft is still mandatory in the US for men 18 and above, by the by

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah but we're not under a perma draft order, haven't had one since 'Nam