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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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Hounding the president of Harvard out of a job because you think she's a DEI hire is one thing, but going after a Billionaire's wife? How dare these journalists! What big bullies.

Bonus downplaying of EA's faults. He of course phrases the Bostrom affair as someone being "accused" of sending a racist email, as if there were any question as to who sent it, or if it was racist. And acts like it's not just the cherry on top of a lifetime of Bostrom's work.

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

conservative journalists Chris Rufo

Journalist ...

Rufo ...

(For those who don't know the guy, Rufo is basically somebody who goes 'for my next racist trick, im going to make all the journalists go crazy over some racist shit I mostly invented and blew up. Look at how I will make CRT the new boogyman' and then after he explained the trick it causes all the 'both sides centrists (like Scott)' follow with his frame and fall into the very obvious pittrap he just dug. And it keeps happening. I know it is very much passe already to call people who you disagree with who others call journalists propagandists, so I will not do so here butttttt (even wikipedia calls him an activist)). Another edit, look revelant stuff from twitter And the 'sorry nitter is dead' screenshot (referenced link)

Amazing how I cannot finish the first couple of paragraphs of a SSC post without getting mad.

E:

I have a personal interest in this because of my experiences with effective altruism.

And not your 'im secretly NRx just wish they focussed more on the racism and less on the kings' skeleton on the closet?

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Rufo is basically somebody who goes ‘for my next racist trick, im going to make all the journalists go crazy over some racist shit I mostly invented and blew up. Look at how I will make CRT the new boogyman’

it's hard for me to imagine anyone here doesn't know who rufo is but on the off chance someone is hearing about him for the first time: the above description is completely literal. he actually does this

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 7 points 7 months ago

I actually didn't recognize the name (or I would have made a big deal out of it in the OP) but this being the CRT guy tracks.

[–] carlitoscohones@awful.systems 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

im secretly NRx

Sometimes building my vocabulary here is fun. I know nothing about his company but I empathize with their PR people who no doubt comb the internet for media hits.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 7 months ago

What is this moldbug and why does it keep ending up in our google search stats?

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's absolutely bizarre that Scott labels Rufo a journalist. Rufo is a right-wing activist who has only ever worked for right-wing think tanks. He first came to my attention as a part of the Discovery Institute, a Seattle-based "think tank" best known for promoting creationism.

Then again, Scott has previously said that he's impressed by the arguments of creationist Michael Behe, another Discovery Institute lackey.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 7 months ago

Isn't the discovery institute also a bit involved in proving that certain skin colors give you lower IQ? Anyway very much not surprised, and also not surprised considering Scotts history of 'im basically left wing, I agree with the left on these subjects [list of subjects, notably race is not one of them (he also has some issues with feminism, and don't think I have seen him express pro sex work is work sentiments but the last one is understandable)]'