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[–] hanekam@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you are unwilling to negotiate and compromise with your enemy and rather go to war

Who went to war in Ukraine?

the US and Nato, when they do the exact same things, somehow have good reasons.

But they don't do the exact same things. The USA and NATO don't annex parts of other countries.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

But they don’t do the exact same things. The USA and NATO don’t annex parts of other countries.

I was being generous, obviously the US is far worse in terms of body count, injuries, displaced people, devastation and ruined countries, regimes changed and democracies suppressed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States#21st-century_wars

Of course Russia sees Ukraine joining Nato as an act of aggression. They said this and that they won't tolerate it. They said it over and over again. And Ukraine put it in their constitution and warmongers like Stoltenberg kept encouraging them. This was all put in motion in 2014 already.

You can say the war is worth it to not loose Crimea and in order to damage and isolate Russia. Ukraine certainly did think so, they wanted a permanent irrevocable break from any interference from Russia. They knew the war was coming and didn't want to negotiate. Fine.

Personally I'd have preferred a compromise and have peace and a chance for improved relations later. Call me a pacifist.

Taiwan seems to be next on the agenda, since the US is gung ho on making it their "close military partner" in their strategy to encircle China. If you don't learn from history you're doomed to repeat it.