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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 84 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Snapping half the life forms also snaps half of the world's gut bacteria. If we removed half of the gut bacteria from those who weren't snapped, that would be removing 75% of the universe's gut bacteria, not 50%.

[–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 49 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not if 50% of the gut bacteria of the people who got snapped just like fell to the ground, or got stuck to that dusty shit.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 56 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Why assume that though? The Infinity Gauntlet isn't a Monkey's Paw, it reads beyond the words and answers the intent of the wielder. So much so, in fact, that it even includes subconscious thoughts and feelings as part of its interpretation. I see often these ideas predicated on the Gauntlet working on Monkey Paw logic despite that being clearly and specifically not how it operates within canon.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 28 points 9 months ago

Yeah, we gotta remember the gauntlet includes the mind stone and the soul stone. Things smarter than just simply granting wishes, as you said.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, the Gauntlet wouldn't leave anything that can't survive on its own, like gut bacteria, nor remove anything that's needed for the proper functioning of another lifeform. It's why there weren't any fetuses falling to the ground after the pregnant women vanished.

I would assume that conjoined twins would be a both-or-neither situation, since removing one would leave a gaping wound in the other even if they could have survived independently with surgery,

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanos does not believe that life begins at conception confirmed.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It kinda sidesteps the whole thing, since the standard is life that is dependent on other life to survive is not counted separately. Like the conjoined twins thing I mentioned.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You just can't reconcile Thanos being pro-life and pro-half of all life.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just like with someone who is pro-death penalty, Thanos cannot claim to be pro-life when he murdered half of the universe.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He is so pro-life he horseshoes to killing half of life out of compassion for life and his desire for life to prosper.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Which is, of course, just a bullshit justification. Reality-altering power, and your solution is to kill people? Not create more resources, or make it so living things require less resources? He's an unimaginative idiot.

[–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean, does it erase 50% of all life, or just roughly 50%?

[–] constnt@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago (4 children)

50% of what Thanos considers life since it was powered by his will. Since he seemed to imply that nature (plants and animals) where not part of this it's safe to assume it was sapient life only.

[–] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Except animals definitely were - remember endgame, Barton went into the office looked out the window to a small garden and found birds had appeared. Very indicative that the snap included animals

[–] SeekPie@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

That's just government propaganda to make you think that birds are real and not drones.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Makes you wonder what happened to fetuses. I think it's fair to assume Thanos isn't pro-life

[–] groupofcrows@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Do we know if Thanos believed in life at conception or birth? Does someone with a donated organ count as one life, two or zero since they wouldn't be alive without the organ. If I only ate one foot, or how about one toe, does that make me a cannibal?

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

He was worried about limited resources, so I would assume that non-sapient fauna would be included.

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 12 points 9 months ago

That's what the dust was.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Wait. If that is how it happened that means when half the population came back they all came back with 0% of their gut bacteria. Holy shit that would be horrible. The population doubles overnight and every single person and animal has the worse runs of their life. Meanwhile they can't get the nutritional needs no matter how much food they eat. Spend the next few months while their family cries as they wither away surrounded by food.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago

No, the desired effects was to undo Thanos's snap, not double the human population. This means that all of the gut bacteria got unsnapped exactly the same as everyone else

[–] dwalin@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Imagine the famine if the next day the world population doubled. Considering that the agricultural production was also reduced

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is one of the many reasons why I say Tony Stark is a bigger villain to the universe than Thanos.

A sudden LACK of mouths is much more favorable than suddenly DOUBLING them.

I order to keep his family alive, he just brings them all back, many years out of place in a universe completely and totally unprepared for their arrival. Not to mention all the people who died AFTER the snap, as a direct result of the snap, will still be dead.

Tony stark is supposed to be smart. So he should know the consequences of his action, and completely disregards it.

And the series pretends he did the universe a favor.

Fuck Tony stark.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Ok another one. What if the snap happened in late 2019 and suddenly there are billions of people who all need to be vaccinated at once?

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Now this is good Infinity Gauntlet critique! This is a legit problem that honestly should have been tackled in the comics

[–] uid0gid0@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If I remember correctly, it only took a short time to undo the snap in the comics, none of this 5 years later stuff

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah you're correct, my bad. In the films, however.

edit: I guess they kind of tackle the issue, although they for some reason seemed to focus more on where these people go rather than how to handle the sudden resource strain

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

So many fecal transplants performed and probiotics sold.