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[–] Sivaru@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AshLassay@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just like stealing someone's food

[–] AshLassay@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Doesn’t excuse the use of illegal means to catch a mere lunch thief. Unless you hate your job and don’t mind getting fired.

[–] AshLassay@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Doesn’t excuse the use of illegal means to catch a mere lunch thief. Unless you hate your job and don’t mind getting fired.

[–] Swervish@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Found the lunch thief

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's why it's safer to use something like Ex-Lax instead. Good luck proving that's why you got the shits!

[–] sunbunman@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How TF is this not legal? It's meant to be your own food. If you want to eat soap, then no-one should be able to tell you otherwise.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Because it is food poisoning. Yes, them stealing food is illegal but so is poisoning food knowing someone will eat it. This is not one of those situations where one person is wrong so the other must be right. This is one of those situations where both people are assholes.

[–] ilickfrogs@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I beg to differ. Food thief is the significantly bigger asshole.

[–] Sentrovasi@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That may be so, but booby-trapping is explicitly illegal in many countries because it basically means an intention to harm somebody else without caring about who the person might be.

[–] ilickfrogs@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never refuted the legality. I said they're the bigger asshole.

[–] Sentrovasi@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

You're begging to differ to someone who's explaining why this is illegal. We all already know thievery is illegal. Your distinction doesn't make any sense if you're not disputing the principle behind its illegality here.

[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think out of 12 jurors you wouldn't have at least one nullify? They don't even have to know what nullification is.

[–] Sentrovasi@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Just maybe all twelve of them understood that the purpose of the jury is to settle matters of fact, not matters of law, and found that yes, you did actually put soap in chocolate hoping someone else would eat it.

[–] sunbunman@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess depends on how they define "poison" in the legal sense. I know that most soaps aren't toxic unless you have it regularly for a while. But I would argue the same for most fast food.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True. Poison may not be the right word. Food tampering my be more accurate.

[–] DauntingFlamingo@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You would have to prosecute both to make the charge stick. The only way to discover food tampering would be the stealing of the food.

Also there are perfectly legal modifications that are dickish but don't constitute tapering. If the ingredients are normally edible without adverse effects, it isn't tampering. You are allowed to dump a bottle of hot sauce into your coffee creamer. You can absolutely add salt instead of sugar to your homemade pie. You can bring a bottle of Gatorade that has been emptied and refilled with lemon juice.

You can't add laxatives or NYQUIL or other items to booby trap your food. Basically you're not allowed to effect someone's health with drugs or things that aren't food

[–] Usernameblankface@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Ah, so I can change the taste of the food with spices and substitute lookalike drink that tastes bad, but I cannot add medication, anything inedible, or anything that I know would affect their health (like peanuts if I know the theif is allergic).

[–] Deuces@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What if the theif turns out to be allergic to hot sauce? Like yeah I didn't mean to seriously harm them, but I was boobytrapping the food with the expectation of causing some amount of harm. If they sue for the medical bills I'm pretty sure I'm gonna have to pay them and if they press charges I can see that going very bad for me

[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if the theif turns out to be allergic to hot sauce?

So I can't put ANY allergens in my food anymore in case someone with an allergy steals it?

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. If someone in your office is dangerously allergic to peanuts, it doesn't mean you can not bring a pb & j for lunch.

If your lunches are being nicked and you suspect the person doing it is allergic to nuts, you can not lace your food with nuts knowing they will eat it and potentially harm them.

It is all about intent.

[–] DauntingFlamingo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

If someone is allergic to peanuts or some other ingredient, they take their own life in their hands when they eat food that doesn't have the ingredients listed. Those people usually carry EpiPens as a safeguard. If one passes away (which happens, though not as often nowadays) there needs to be proof the person was intentionally given something the issuer knew would do harm. It's really hard to prove, and genuine mistakes happen (parent giving a child a snack with wheat or peanut in it, that kind of thing).

You would not be liable unless there was proof of intent

[–] DauntingFlamingo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

If someone is allergic to peanuts or some other ingredient, they take their own life in their hands when they eat food that doesn't have the ingredients listed. Those people usually carry EpiPens as a safeguard.

If one passes away (which happens, though not as often nowadays) there needs to be proof the person was intentionally given something the issuer knew would do harm.

It's really hard to prove, and genuine mistakes happen (parent giving a child a snack with wheat or peanut in it, that kind of thing).

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

in that case it's on him to avoid food he's allergic to. So you'd be in the clear. Unless of course, you're allergic too. In that case it's pretty hard to argue that you made it for yourself

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Soap isn't poison unless you keep eating it.

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because your intentionally tampering with food which is felony. You get a 15 second laugh, and then the person you pranked can turn around and get you sent a prison for up to 15 years and $10,000 in fines.

Sure, they deserved it, but it ain't worth going to prison over.

Edit: Okay, am I getting downvoted because I'm wrong, or because you guys just don't like the answer?

[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

The secret ingredient... is crime