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I'm going insane. I cannot for the life of me find a suitable way to listen to music privately. I'm on iOS, and I don't know whether to just stick to Apple Music or give up on music in general (I tried, TRIED to go local, but all the apps are shitty). Any way to listen to music and not have your data compromised? Should I just stick to Apple Music and hope that laws change (maybe something like EU's DMA?)

Edit: Hey all! First of all, thank you so much for all the recommendations! I've discovered so many great apps and tools I didn't even know existed (and it has also brought my hopes up for privacy in general). Even though it's still not perfect, I've been using foobar2000 on iOS, downloading music I find (I'm still using Apple Music for discovery, but will probably stop when my subscription ends this month). For desktop I'm using HyperPipe, which although a little buggy at times is so awesome! One thing I do miss about this system is the lack of lyrics. Apple Music has such a beautiful UI when it comes with lyrics, but you can't have it all when it comes to privacy it seems. Thanks for the amazing discussion! I'm so far loving Lemmy ;)

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[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have a copy of all your music and use syncthing if apple allows it that is. Otherwise get a deegoogled android running grapheneOS

[–] TheAlchemist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Getting/syncing music isn't really a major problem for me, a decent audio player (with minimal features such as a queue and a decent UI) is what I'm trying to find.

[–] ForestOrca@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

VLC?

I feel like all the answers are so far beyond what I do. Basically VPN to Invidio.us, record with Audio Hijack, put on my phone, and play on VLC. Curious what all the elite privateers think?

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why vpn you invidio.us? Why not directly? Invidio.us acts as the middleman to yt anyway, right?

E: autocorrect correction.

[–] nus@mstdn.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@01189998819991197253 @ForestOrca the gateway to the middleman to yt
but if you don't trust the instance, then you vpn to it :undefined:

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right. I assumed trust in the instance, but should never assume that. Of course, by using a vpn, you're assuming it is trustworthy. I guess you gotta trust someone somewhere, at least enough to hop to the next stone.

[–] nus@mstdn.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@01189998819991197253 To be online, you totally do. :undefined: Adding extra layers helps a little bit I think.. after all, the VPN can't see exactly what video you're looking at, and then the Invidious instance can't see where you're really located...

I agree 100%. The VPN, though, can see what address you're visiting, and the address is unique to the video. That's where the trust in the VPN comes into play. With the VPN, invidio.us can't see your location, and with invidio.us, YouTube doesn't know who you are. So many layers! I love it!

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why record with an app? Some invidious insurances allow downloading. There's a drop-down menu on the video page.

[–] ForestOrca@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Right, if dl'able then no need to record. I was trying to list my method in the most general sense.