I didn't say it was the equivalent I said neither are good for you and both could be cleaned and sanitized sufficiently by the right dishwasher, so please don't put words in my mouth thanks. Damp used dishes stuffed into a dishwasher for a few days aren't going to have anything good for you on them either and that's how most people treat their used dishes. We get viruses and parasites growing on regular food that has gone bad too, and both are going to disagree with your stomach and potentially do some harm. Does rinsing your dishes or washing them right away help mitigate or prevent that? Sure. Does everyone do that? Of course not. I never said "eating shit is the exact same as licking a dirty dish" nor did I say anything close to that. I said "both are bad for you and a well made dishwasher is designed to clean things really well and even sanitize them in order to make them safe to eat off of, so it makes sense logically that this could be safe but I still wouldn't do it anyway".

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You literally said 'isnt much better'. A magnitude of a few thousand is 'much better' in my opinion.

Noone likes being criticized but this could be an opportunity to embrace it and learn something.

[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The real question here is how many grams of shit are actually in the bristles of a used toilet brush

[–] PopMyCop@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 9 months ago

Also how many microbes (because mako used number of actual organisms per gram to make his numbers big and scary) per visible colony or growth that you'd see on a plate with food that's been left out for several days.

What he should have elaborated on, instead of only a single sentence with a curse word for emphasis, is that the microbes in your fecal matter are more likely to be able to survive inside of your body if they make it past your innate defenses when consumed. They were already in one area and survived, and now they may be entering a different area (which is one of the major ways infections can happen). You have plenty of microbes happily surviving on your skin, in your digestive tract, etc. without causing any issues, but if they make it elsewhere, some pretty nasty infections result. Look up Staphylococcus epidermidis and its outcomes for people who have plastic medical devices implanted, even though it's really great for you to have it on your skin.

[–] Lifebandit666@feddit.uk 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Damp used dishes stuffed into a dishwasher for a few days aren't going to have anything good for you on them either and that's how most people treat their used dishes.

No they don't, don't project onto the world what you think is normal. Everyone I know washes up or puts the dishwasher on straight after they've eaten, then puts their dishes away when they're clean and dried.

[–] Twelve20two@slrpnk.net 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wait, you know folks who regularly run the dishwasher each day?

[–] Lifebandit666@feddit.uk 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I do yes

[–] Twelve20two@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wow. It usually takes my partner and I two or three days to fill it. I should look up the specifics of the model and see if the energy saving option is worth it for small loads

[–] Lifebandit666@feddit.uk 2 points 9 months ago

Ah that's the issue. The people I know have 2 kids, so it takes half the time to fill the dishwasher.

Personally I only run the dishwasher when we have people round for food and drinks. Otherwise I wash up the old fashioned way because it saves power.