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Urbit 2.0 just dropped (archive.ph)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by self@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems
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no excerpts yet cause work destroyed me, but this just got posted on the orange site. apparently a couple of urbit devs realized urbit sucks actually. interestingly they correctly call out some of urbit’s worst points (like its incredibly high degree of centralization), but I get the strong feeling that this whole thing is an attempt to launder urbit’s reputation while swapping out the fascists in charge

e: I also have to point out that this is written from the insane perspective that anyone uses urbit for anything at all other than an incredibly inefficient message board and a set of interlocking crypto scams

e2: I didn’t link it initially, but the orange site thread where I found this has heated up significantly since then

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[–] gerikson@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dev is asked why it's called "Plunder"

Think of it as being a Scheme implementation: Racket, Stalin, Larceny, Plunder.

TBH this is the first time I've heard of a Scheme named after the notorious Soviet dictator. What's next, a Lisp called Hitler?

[–] self@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

it’s weird that they omitted the historical MIT projects that led to scheme (PLANNER, Conniver, SCHEME(r, they ran into a filename length limit when implementing)) but found time to mention an obscure Lisp with no impact that stopped updating 16 years ago

maybe cause in the actual historical context of Lisp-1 names, “plunder” doesn’t even fit the pattern