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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 105 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Years ago when my Gen Z nephew was turning 16 (minimum driving age in USA), the conversation went like this:

  • "Are you excited to start driving and do you want car?"
  • "Nah, not interested"
  • "Why not?"
  • "Where would I go?"
  • "Wherever you want!"
  • "Everything I want is right here at home"

I thought about my own Gen X early driving experience with the freedom to go to the mall or the movie theater whenever I wanted and to drive to school or work.

  • His school (and eventually job) were both within walking bicycling distance.
  • He had streaming services I never dreamed of when I was his age piping a flood of big budget movies right to his TV whenever he wants
  • malls are dead

I couldn't really argue with his logic. Years later he did get a car when he moved out and lived farther away from work. However, it was many years after the minimum driving age which was a big departure from generations prior.

[–] Graphy@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

For me the appeal of a car was having somewhere private to do drugs, awkwardly make out with girls, and hide from my parents.

I feel like those things are somewhat timeless?

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

All of those things can and always have been accomplished without the use of a car.

[–] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Doesn't mean it doesn't make it easier, or make sure that when your friends are smoking you are there getting free hits and your gas money. Between the free beer, weed, and gas my shit box might have paid for itself.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Parents force their kids to share their location, so it isn't like the kids can hide as they used to.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 months ago

I’m so glad I grew up when the internet was only used by nerds like me…

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago

Even as someone who didn’t try any drugs until I was 20, I fully agree with you. But also gals and bois for me.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My son is about to turn 18 and is of much the same mind. We pushed him a bit to get his license but he rarely drives and has about zero interest in owning his own car. He just doesn't have anywhere he needs/wants to go. I imagine it's a little different for kids with more activities outside the home. Sports, clubs, jobs... He doesn't have any of that going on at this point. I'm admittedly a little sad about that, but I can't really force him to be interested.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 10 months ago

Part of it comes down to that we killed a lot of the other places to go and do things along the way (called Third Places - not home or work, but a secret third thing). Kids don't have malls or something to hang out at anymore. If they're not hanging out online, then they're probably at somebody's house. It costs money to be anywhere else. Plus, gas and cars are expensive. So there's no desire to just go out driving for the fun of it. Instead of being an expression of personal freedom, cars are just about getting you from point A to point B. When I turned 16 almost 20 years ago, this was how I and the older sister of a friend of mine felt, too. There was nowhere to go really in a vacation town where traffic is so bad in the summer that you don't want to drive and everything is closed the rest of the year. So a car was just a way to get to school/work and back home again.