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[–] thantik@lemmy.world 132 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Personally I love reading novels of worlds that have no basis in reality. I also love authors that repeat themselves over and over because I have memory issues and can't remember the last sentence I've read.

Oh, and I also love reading novels of worlds that have no basis in reality.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t know. She sucks you in with the atrocious writing and two dimensional characters who are all just stand-ins for an opinionated author, but she really seals the deal with the fetishization of rape culture and how it inexorably ties in with hyper-capitalist American culture. It’s really the whole package.

[–] sorebuttfromsitting@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can't defend any of that, and I'm ashamed to say, that crap worked on me for a bit as a man barely a boy, in the 90s. What helped me was looking at other movements like scientology and Charles Manson.

Just trying to say, don't throw someone in the trash just because they read trash.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fountainhead worked on me a bit. I still think integrity and innovation are important, but I bet I would have gotten that way even if I hadn't read it.

I don't make weapons, I don't work for Twatter or Faceboot, I do make an effort to keep refining and upgrading designs instead of endlessly recycling the old, I do pull out dead useless code. I don't win every battle and I don't even fight every battle. And very generally speaking I do think if you do work you are proud of you will be happier.

At the same time you should not assume you are the smartest person and if everyone is doing X you need to at least consider that they are on to something.

See? You don't need a 400 page novel. A paragraph works.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, but your paragraph has less rape, which Rand would consider a minus.

[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just think it's fascinating that racists can write. Like, good for them.

[–] tea@lemmy.today 15 points 1 year ago

"This book is a testament to how even the most stupid among us can write a fully fledged book with words, chapters, and everything." ~@tea

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I struggle to see how anyone could have written the Turner Diaries and not have either been trolling or gotten some serious "Are we the baddies?" Energy in the process....

[–] blivet@artemis.camp 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, honestly, I don’t mind reading novels that argue points I disagree with, but the repetitiveness is unbelievable. One of the reasons John Galt’s 60 page speech is so intolerable is that all of the points he makes in it had already been made two or three times before.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does he actually have a speech, that lasts 60 God damn pages?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Yes. And I really hope whoever shelled out cash to see the Atlas Shrugged 3 movie had to sit through every agonizing second of it on screen.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If it wasn't it sure as heck felt like 60 pages.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I like science fiction too!