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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] Followupquestion@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I respect your perspective but as a parent, trust me, life is really freaking hard as it is. Making it harder is unconscionable.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not trying to downplay the right to your opinion but I feel like there has to be a better way to allow parents to enjoy options while also not making restaurants hostile to pedestrians

[–] Followupquestion@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I absolutely agree with making more places pedestrian friendly, I just think a drive through makes too much sense to dismiss out of hand. Heck, I’m in favor of walk-up windows to better serve those of us who don’t want to go inside a restaurant even without kids.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I just don't see how a pedestrian friendly place of business and a drive through can co-exist. Open to being proven wrong but as I see it, anywhere that incorporates a drive thru adds at least 3 areas where traffic intersects with customers in a dangerous manner: at the beginning, around the store and the unavoidable blind spot when leaving.

Not trying to take away from your ability to enjoy these things I just don't think they are a good solution to a public place, as with anything car centric.

[–] Followupquestion@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I don’t have images readily available, but there are little shopping centers surrounding parking lots where pedestrians go right from the sidewalks into the various restaurants/shops, if you can imagine a U shape for the shops and the parking lot and vehicular entrances inside the U. It just takes some planning and extra space, and you know, capitalism isn’t a huge fan of “wasted” space that isn’t generating revenue.

[–] ethman42@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Sonic works well without the drive through needed.