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[–] grue@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Communes w/ no real government or class structure

Yeah, that's what upper-class Hobbits like the Bagginses want you to think.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

With a literal servant class that does all the actual work, no less.

The reality is there isn't a "left" in Tolkien, even under the original definition from the French Revolution, it's monarchism all the way down because at the end of the day he was a pretty firm monarchist making a pseudo-Catholic fantasy setting.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, missed that part of the book and movies. When do we meet the servant class that works for the Baggins' and the other ruling class Hobbits?

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Sam is Frodo's gardener despite Frodo having no job. Neither did Bilbo have a job and Baggins were referred to as aristocracy along with Brandybucks and Tooks.

https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Baggins_family

[–] StarPupil@ttrpg.network 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And I believe Frodo became mayor of either Hobbiton or the entire Shire before he left for the Grey Havens at the end of ROTK. Could be misremembering, though

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Sam became mayor.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 4 points 10 months ago

Let's take their spoons, and hang them from the tree on top of Bag End!

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