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There are few things quite as emblematic of late stage capitalism than the concept of "planned obsolescence".

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[–] ono@lemmy.ca 75 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Companies making mass market devices should be required by law to support them indefinitely, or until they publish the technical specs sufficient for community support and repair.

The upgrade cycle they're allowed to get away with today is not only a ridiculous drain on people's money, but also a shameful source of pollution and waste.

[–] DJDarren@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

until they publish the technical specs sufficient for community support and repair.

I want to see phones with no further official OS support have their boot loaders opened up so a lightweight OS can be installed on them instead. I've had iPhones in the past that have been absolutely rock solid after a battery replacement that lost iOS support, and with that a whole bunch of resale value. So I now tend to sell mine a year or so before they're likely to be dropped.

But I genuinely think that I'd hold on to an iPhone that could have an alternative OS installed. This is, of course, why none of the major manufacturers allow this. Gotta put the profits ahead of the ethics.

[–] SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually in the Android community Sony helps you unlock your bootloader and offers official AOSP sources for their devices that you can compile and install yourself.

I have no idea why people are enamored with Samsung.

[–] DuskyHeaps@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Ad campaigns, most likely. I always seem to see ads for Samsung phones, but not as often for Sony brand ones. I do agree Sony does a much better job about opening up the bootloader, versus Samsung punishing you for trying to open your own paid for device up.

[–] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly, bootloader locking should be downright illegal. If EU wants to make phones last, they need to mandate that you can unlock the bootloader (WITHOUT bullshit like having to get an unlock code from the manufacturer). Want to lock it down for certain software features like payments, etc? Ok, fine, I can live with that, so long as I can unlock it if I so choose and keep all HARDWARE functionality intact.

On another note, the manufacturers should be upstreaming and mainlining their drivers in the Linux kernel. ChromeOS and Android are both built on Linux, yet they keep all their hardware support in forks and branches that are left to wither and die rather than submitting those changes upstream. Only a select few ARM SoCs have mainline support. If the companies would just put a bit of extra effort into doing things right rather than the shitty hack jobs they do now to get products out the door as fast as possible, we could have a much better ecosystem around old phones. Of course, the shittiness is by design.