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No, we can't make it happen in reverse in the perception of time we need to have consciousness.
It's not that everything has to confirm to how we experience it. It's that we can only observe things in the way we can experience it.
Now, while Penrose finished up Einsteins work on relativity, I get most people do t know who he is.
But even Einstein himself disagreed with you before Penrose finished it.
https://www.quantamagazine.org/a-debate-over-the-physics-of-time-20160719/
Serious, if you're saying time is constant and can only flow in one direction, you're arguing with the literal foundation physics is built on.
Time just isn't a necessity for anything except consciousness.
This is crazy complicated though, and I'm not even going to pretend to understand all of it. So it's hard to explain. I'd suggest a lot of reading if you want to know more rather than me try to summarize.
But yes, if you do the actual physics of something being set on fire, the equation works just fine both ways
Instead of saying it can only work one way, it's more accurate to say a consciousness can only experience it one way. Which might not even be technically true.
A self contained universe with fixed energy and infite time will eventually see a pile of ash turned into an apple. And it wouldn't violate a damn thing with our system of physics.
Edit:
Specifically for causal stuff:
Show a person a causaul relationship out of order (acb rather than abc) and they're report that they observed abc. The conscious mind can't rationalize acb, so it overrides it
This may very well be happening constantly and we just don't even know it.
All this stuff is incredibly interesting, it's just even harder to wrap our minds around, because our minds may have evolved to handle all this stuff as a background process. Because consciousness needs to experience stuff in abc order to make any sense out of anything.
It's a real mindfuck, literally. There's a very good chance we'll never be able to understand because we're conscious
Einstein abandoned the static universe theory when we confirmed expansion. Time is absolutely not constant but it is unidirectional according to Einstein himself after the Hubble Telescope verified that everything everywhere is expanding. The radius of the universe depends on time.
If I showed you a 1 second video of an apple falling from a tree, would you say the apple would continue to fall forever? After all, the only evidence you have is the apple falling.
Penrose, (who again was the one to finish up and prove a lot of Einstein 's work btw) believes we're just looking at a very tiny piece of the puzzle. And Big Bangs are cyclical.
https://bigthink.com/hard-science/black-holes-prove-the-universe-keeps-exploding-claims-physicist/
https://www.maths.ox.ac.uk/node/36137
Personally I think it's more like fireworks going off in the sky all over than one single repeating big bang.
But Penrose literally just won a Novel a few years ago. He's literally the person most qualified to talk about this. And he's been doing it for decades. Right after he finished up Einsteins work.
What you're doing is like insisting the sun orbits Earth because that's what accepted.
Penrose is literally bleeding edge physics. Just because he hasn't convinced everyone he's right yet, doesn't mean he's wrong. Science moves pretty fucking slow, someone next generation will.probably price Penrose right, just like Einstein wasn't proven right until Penrose and Hawking showed up to do it while working together.
It's literally how science works man...