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Dave Chappelle’s Obsession With Mocking Trans People Continues in New Netflix Special ‘The Dreamer’: ‘I Love Punching Down’ (variety.com)

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[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 47 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I used to love Chappelle. These past couple years don't offend me, they just bore the fuck out of me. Which is not what I look for in entertainment.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 58 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm absolutely fine with trans jokes or dead baby jokes or literally anything, just make sure and not to forget the joke part

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’ve thought for quite some time there’s fertile ground for jokes about the trans experience, but they really need to be told by people who have lived that experience. There is something cosmically funny about being born into one body and feeling it is the wrong one.

[–] moriquende@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

why do you think only people who have been trans should be making trans jokes?

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In general it takes a level of skill to tell a joke about a marginalized group without punching down that is exceptionally rare. For example, I can think of one or two male comedians who have told rape jokes that did not make rape victims the butt of the joke. If a trans person tells a joke about the trans experience and fucks it up, other trans people won’t feel like a cis person is just adding to the atmosphere of hate toward them.

[–] moriquende@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

I think it definitely needs to be done tactfully and without hate, but joking about one another is an important part of being included and feeling like we all belong together.

[–] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

My philosophy of comedy is that you can joke about any tragedy you want, but make it absolutely fucking crystal clear that you are on the victim's side. Plus, punching up is always funnier than punching down.

[–] kellyaster@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, these aren't even jokes, more like some weirdass gross power fantasy.

“God forbid I ever go to jail. But if I do, I hope it’s in California. Soon as the judge sentences me, I’ll be like, ‘Before you sentence me, I want the court to know I identify as a woman. Send me to a woman’s jail.’ As soon I get in there, you know what I’mma be doing. ‘Give me your fruit cocktail, bitch, before I knock your motherfucking teeth out. I’m a girl, just like you, bitch. Come here and suck this girl dick I got. Don’t make me explain myself. I’m a girl.'”

I am trans, and it's hard to not take the insults personally, especially since this "edgy comedy" is coming from a comedian I used to admire and respect. What the fuck, Dave?

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I gave his most recent specials a shot, but it's mostly just him ranting about his various beefs, which isn't good comedy.

Like, there are a handful of decent jokes, but the pacing sucks because he wants to air out all this dirty laundry in between.

[–] markr@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

At least Lenny had some actual real beefs to whine about.

[–] Elderos@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

First content I watched of him was a special on Netflix years ago, and I just couldn't finish it. Nothing he said punched or was structured as a joke. It really felt he was just having boring discussions with himself.