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Just a headsup for any server admins running Firefish, apparently it is no longer being maintained. One of the core developers of Firefish has written about the situation in the link provided.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

blahaj.zone moved to ice-shrimp too but honestly calckey/firefish (HATE the name) always left a bad taste in my mouth.

i've always loved misskey above all else.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We partly moved to ice shrimp, but it was quite divergent from Hajkey, and after being burnt by our Calckey experience, we lost a lot of momentum and energy, so it's sort of sat there in a mostly working state, not ice shrimp and not Hajkey for a while now.

Once we're both back from South America though, we'll do a migration to Sharkey (a direct soft fork of Misskey). After that, Kaity will look at gradually adding our Hajkey specific features directly in to Sharkey where possibly.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

ice shrimp, Hajkey, Calckey, Sharkey

Wait, what? How is anybody supposed to keep up with so many forks? Why does everyone and their mom rather make their own fork than to work together? What's even the problem with Misskey to begin with?

[–] Dankry@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

How is anybody supposed to keep up with so many forks?

It’s like eating at a fancy restaurant up in here.

[–] yuki2501@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just wait until you hear about the number of Linux distros 😛

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Most are just repackagings of Debian and Ubuntu, not actual forks.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're not. The only people who need to know are instance admins choosing what platform to run. If you're not an admin you can deep dive as much or as little as you like in to the differences between the forks!

Why does everyone and their mom rather make their own fork than to work together?

It's both of those things. This stuff is all open source. For our fork, Hajkey for example, we added the stuff that we wanted that wasn't anywhere else. We'd also submit our changes to Calckey (which would later rename to Firefish due to a name clash) if the Calckey team wanted them. Some they did (like translation, post editing etc) and some they didn't (such as our timeline filters).

So we were doing our own thing and working together.

Sharkey does the same thing, but they feed back in to Misskey.

And as a user, if that's too much to bother with, well, most of the differences are minor and you can just ignore it all, and pick your preferred instance for other reasons

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The only people who need to know are instance admins choosing what platform to run.

And how are admins supposed to know which the week's hottest fork is? If I google for Sharkey, the results I get are people with that Irish surname, most notably Feargal Sharkey. When I google for Hajkey, https://git.hajkey.org/hajkey comes up which doesn't even open in a web browser (perhaps the web server is down and now only a git client can access it, no idea and how would I get an idea about that...). Googling for Ice Shrimp mostly results in recipes and photos on shrimp on crushed ice.

I start to understand why everyone rather makes a new fork: Because nobody knows of other projects to contribute to.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Admins know which forks are which and what benefit they bring because they're active in spaces talking about this stuff, and often talking to other admins.

A first time admin with no real Fediverse experience won't end up running any of those forks.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

ooh yess thank you i didn't mean to imply i was in charge or anything i was just reading from the announcement :3

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago

Hah, no stress. That's not how I read your comment. I was just taking the chance to expand on it :)