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How would you feel if Beehaw left the Fediverse? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 11 months ago by suspended@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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I am one of the admins of Beehaw and I'm trying to get some feedback on our potential move.

Let's start out with a little Beehaw history before judgements are passed, please.

A handful of us were beta testing Tildes when we decided to have discussions on a Discord server.

We decided that our 'Northern Star' or guiding principle would culminate as 'Be Nice' with purposefully vague/flexible interpretations. Our overall goal is to provide a safe space to disenfranchised persons.

We talked for a little over a year and some of our members became impatient. Then someone stepped in to suggest a couple of platforms that we could consider getting started with.

One of those platforms was Lemmy. None of us knew, at that time, anything about ActivityPub.

During the Reddit exodus (surrounding the API outcry and blackout), our instance exploded. We were, initially, crippled by the mass amounts of users seeking refuge.

Thankfully, someone stepped in and volunteered hundreds of hours of work to stabilize our instance and refine it further.

After many hours of talks, it became clear to us that our overall goal could be achieved outside of Lemmy/ActivityPub.

Right now, we feel that Lemmy and ActivityPub have downsides that are limiting us from achieving that goal.

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[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The fact you have this ready to go is super sketchy.

[–] exocrinous@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Armed minorities are harder to oppress. This is the internet, short of doxxing and swatting (which I don't believe in), the closest thing we have to weapons is incriminating information. So when people told me I was evil because of a mental disorder and that I'm reactionary for believing in gender neutral pronouns, I made weapons. This is the correct response to hate.

What, do you think I faked all this evidence? Do you think all these hateful people are my secret alts and I even became a Hexbear mod to manufacture evidence of hate?

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I don’t think you fake evidence. But I do think you are an axe grinder. And that’s cool, I have plenty of axes of my own to grind with hexbear folk.

But I’m going to nod and walk away and leave you to your grinding.

[–] corvid_of_the_night@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If it didn't have the information, you would've said "YOU CLAIM THINGS WITHOUT PROOF, YOU'RE LYING!!1!1!1!1!1!1!" There's no winning against a mindset like this, because no matter what the victim does, they will not be trusted.

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you feel like you need to win you have already lost.

I was just curious because the OPs experiences were diametrically opposed to my own (equally awful) but radically different ones.

But now I feel I’m being used like a semplicio in some ongoing feud between the gp and a mod, and while I emphathize im bowing out.

[–] exocrinous@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Damn, you're right. And they literally did say I wasn't telling the truth before I showed proof. I criticise transphobes, vzq accuses me of hiding something, I show proof, and that makes me suspicious. It's almost like Blahaj users hate trans people for being victims