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I'll go first. Mine is that I can't stand the Deadpool movies. They are self aware and self referential to an obnoxious degree. It's like being continually reminded that I am in a movie. I swear the success of that movie has directly lead to every blockbuster having to have a joke every 30 seconds

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[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I upvoted because the first part made me laugh. But I wholeheartedly disagree. Fast and Furious is legitimately stupid. I thought fury road's story was great. "Concubines of an abusive king in a post apocalyptic world escape his clutches and mad max helps fight off their pursuers" is as good a concept as any. It's not citizen kane but it's also not supposed to be. It's an action/adventure movie with really good performances and incredible visuals. The fact that the story makes sense and has a lot of interesting moments (like Max's PTSD or whatever those flashes of that kid were) means it can't be compared to fast and furious.

[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's fair, I may have been overly dismissive with the plot, maybe I need to go back and give it a second look.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Come back and let me know if you do. Even if you still don't like it I'm curious how you would expand that opinion. When it comes to fury road I've been in an echo chamber. You're the first person I've seen dislike it.

Edit: I hope at the very least you agree it's not fast and furious though, I took that personally 😂

[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I went back and watched it and I see what you are saying about Furiosa and the concubines, it is a great device for setting up the chase. The chase then becomes the rest of the movie. Furiosa and Max have invincible plot armor during these chases and while I can appreciate the artistic skill in crafting these action scenes, I found sitting through them all a bit laborious.

The most interesting thing about the story to me was how Max and Furiosa went from straight up try to murder each other to becoming best buds. This happens so quickly and without a lot of explanation and to me that is a bit jarring. It seems to me the reason they dont spend more time on it is that the chase has already begun. And this to me is what keeps me from loving this this movie, they compromise on story in favor of chase and action scenes. While there is a lot to love about this movie, it is still not my favorite Mad Max movie.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago

Nice! I don't disagree with most of what you said about the story except for not liking it. I really enjoy the fast paced action. I also don't mind the story taking a back seat when the action is done as well as it is in that movie.

It's been a few years since I've watched it (maybe before COVID) but to from memory I didn't think they became best friends right away. They were trying to kill each other and the only reason why they stopped was because they were basically on equal playing fields and if they continued fighting the hoard would catch up to them without either of them escaping. They already had a common enemy, the only reason they were fighting was because Max wanted to GTFO and leave them, while Furiosa was trying to protect her homies. Once Max figured out he wouldn't be able to drive the truck anyway and Furiosa realized Max won't try to hurt her friends is when they started opening up more. For me, that's plenty.

Another story centric scene I liked a lot was when they ran into the old women from Furiosa's tribe. I forget it's people acting in that scene, the pain and longing in Furiosa's eyes is so tangible and realistic. Plus "badass old ladies" is such an awesome device and I think they did a really good job at executing that.

Thanks for coming back with a well thought out opinion. Like I said earlier, you're the first person I've seen dislike it, but everything you said makes complete sense. I think it's just a matter of taste and what we grew up watching. I also haven't watched the mad max movies with Mel Gibson, I tried watching the first one after I saw fury road and I don't think I got 20 minutes in. It didn't even feel apocalyptic at all, like weren't there cops😂? I'm sure it's great but I was expecting 80s style "war boys" and something fast paced like fury road. I might go back and try again because I just realized maybe it shows the world fall apart and I am interested in seeing that. I just thought it would already be post apocalyptic and it just seemed like 80s Australia to me, my favorite thing about fury road is the world around him being so goddamn interesting and unique, never saw anything like it when it came out. And haven't seen anyone do it better so far.

What is your favorite mad max movie?