this post was submitted on 01 Jan 2024
376 points (77.4% liked)

News

23406 readers
3283 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Dave Chappelle has released a new Netflix special, The Dreamer, which is full of jokes about the trans community and disabled people.

“I love punching down!” he tells the audience, in a one-hour show that landed on the streaming service today (31 December).

It’s his seventh special for Netflix and comes two years after his last one, the highly controversial release The Closer.

That programme was criticised for its relentless jokes about the trans community, and Chappelle revisits the topic in his new show.

He tells jokes about trans women in prison, and about trans people “pretending” to be somebody they are not.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 140 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

I am so sick of his comedy of grievance. Every act he does over the past few years is about how unfair the world is to him and how people don't acknowledge how great he is.

He's riding out the glory of an okay sketch show that he made two seasons and then torpedoed 20 years ago.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 79 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, I’m reminded of Jerry Seinfeld. Some comedians are great for life, most have a time and a place and excel then and there. I’m the 90s Seinfeld was bigger than big, in the 10s he was telling college campuses they’re too pc for not laughing at jokes about trans people. In the 00s Chappelle left on a high note and was a popular icon of comedy who quit too soon. In the 20s he was a raging bigot who should’ve stayed quit. Meanwhile Larry David is still making tv and fairly popular, but that’s because he mostly sticks to punching himself in the face.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 63 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Chappelle has said that Key and Peele were just doing "his show." But look at how Jordan Peele has reinvented himself as one of the iconic horror film directors of our generation (and maybe all time?). He wouldn't be out of place in a list alongside Alfred Hitchcock, Eli Roth, M. Night Shyamalan, Clive Barker, or George A. Romero.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also, like so? People wanted more and you quit so others said they could do something similar. And as you said, Peele is doing stuff nobody dared do before in a different genre now.

I think at the root of his problem Chappelle seems to think that he’s the greatest and people just refuse to see it. He seems to lack the humility that is needed for a comedian to stay relatable

[–] hypnotoad__@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago

Yep, dude is just hurt that no one considers him the comedy king anymore. Not that he deserves it, but HE certainly thinks he does. It's sad, really... I remember respecting him for stepping down for a bit. What a disappointing return, I wish he had just faded away with positive memories instead of torpedoing himself, his legacy, and the fight for equal rights.

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Gonna take friendly umbrage with you putting Shyamalan on that list but not mentioning John Carpenter or Wes Craven :)

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago
[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I take umbrage with Eli Roth being on that list at all...

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago

I give him slight props for 1 decent movie but yeah I know what you mean.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

You could also absolutely argue that what Key and Peele were doing was continuing on with a successful team-up that started on MadTV. If SNL got cancelled and Keenan Thompson got his own sketch show a couple of years later... I mean, that would make sense, wouldn't it? People find him likable and he has sketch comedy writing and performing experience.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Meanwhile Chappelle made some edgelords all defensive. Samesies!

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago

Jordan Peele has reinvented himself as one of the iconic horror film directors of our generation (and maybe all time?)

I mean I'm happy that Peele has found success, but this is not accurate in any way.

He has one okay movie, and none of his movies can really be considered horror.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile Larry David is still making tv and fairly popular, but that’s because he mostly sticks to punching himself in the face.

I've got a love-hate thing with his writing. David is a master of unconventional suicide by words. He's very funny but so good at causing intentional cringe that I suspect that his humor could be weaponized in the event of another world war.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Full agree. I think Jason Alexander did an amazing job of playing him in a way that didn’t hurt as bad to watch as when David plays himself. I tried curb your enthusiasm and it was funny but I just couldn’t watch more than one episode the cringe was so intense.

[–] AllOfMe28@lemmyhub.com 1 points 10 months ago

Seinfeld is a groomer

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 71 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I remember in "The Closer" he said "now Key & Peele are on Comedy Central, doing my show."

Like dude, you did not invent the sketch comedy show. SNL had been going on for decades before he even thought of doing his own spin on it. I used to like his comedy, but not so much after that special, and definitely not after this.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I grew up with (and loved) the Chappelle Show but Key & Peele is sooo much better. I rewatched some of his show a few years ago and most of the skits don't hold up well at all. It's mostly just black stereotype caricatures that are only "not racist" because a black guy wrote them

[–] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The fucked part is one of the reasons he stopped doing Chapelle Show was (according to him sometimes) because he recognized a good chunk of his audience was laughing at the black stereotype shit instead of with him about how ridiculous it was. And now he's cashing in on punching down at other groups and cares not a bit about it.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. I like some edgy humor but the show was an invitation for racists to be more public with their opinions...which they did

[–] 4am@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Yeah, seems Dave’s always had a problem with misreading the room. Still does, just is bitter about it now

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

And misogyny. I can’t remember a woman on that show that wasn’t eye candy or the butt of a joke.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

Dude is a multi millionaire in his 50s who does nothing but bitch about how other rich people "stole" his money. Sooooo relatable Dave, wow!

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, yeah, he's a piece of shit, and yeah he's still riding on that old fame, but come on. That was a great sketch show, not merely an ok one. The fact that he has turned into Clayton Bigsby should not distract from the fact that the first episode of his show featured a faux documentary about a black white supremacist. That was some amazing television. I'm all for bashing Dave for the many, many shitty things he's said and done in the past few years, but let's not rewrite history here.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

It's far from the worst, but great? I guess there's no accounting for taste. I'd prefer Mr Show, Monty Python, In Living Color, Key & Peele, Portlandia... does Robot Chicken count?