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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 57 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

i get downvoted here when i mention stuff like this

biden is right wing

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 69 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The entire US political spectrum is right wing by international standards.

[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 6 points 10 months ago

Even by US standards if we go back a few decades. HW negotiated a ceasefire in Israel, and sectors both sides spent time and money trying to dismantle the nuclear arsenal. Biden is “modernizing” it. He’s genuinely to the right of the Republican Party just a couple decades ago in many ways.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (11 children)

He is. But Trump and the other Republicans are fascists and even further right wing.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Biden committing genocide isn't fascist for you?

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Trump literally wants genocide.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Biden literally does genocide.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Really, he is personally wiping out a race of people? Not bad for a guy y’all claim is senile.

Listen, Biden sucks, but the alternative is SO MUCH worse.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Do you think Adolf Hitler personally gassed 6 million Jews? You do realize that committing genocide is about policy not killing everyone with your own hands right?

Biden calling himself a Zionist, providing israel with all the bombs to kill Palestinians with, cover them with three aircraft carriers against retaliation, intercepting missles towards israel and defending their ships against attacks in the Red Sea so they can continue their genocide means Genocide Joe is more responsible for enabling this genocide than even Netanyahu

[–] PreviouslyAmused@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And …. Godwin’s Law for the win.

You kept dancing around the point, but you finally committed and were able to bring up Hitler in what seems to be 4 moves during a conversation about oil.

Well done.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Geez I wonder how Adolf Hitler is relevant to a situation where people see themselves as superior to other people and want to kill them all and take over their land.

There is no comparison no be made here guys move on! Godwins law everyone!

[–] derf82@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you think Biden is ordering the killing of Palestinians the same as Hitler ordered the extermination of Jews? Ridiculous. You are a complete moron if you draw any remote equivalence to Hitler.

Biden has pushed to reduce civilian deaths and has forced Israel to address the humanitarian do a greater degree than they otherwise would.

Mark my words, Trump would be far, far worse for Gaza.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Oh no he said some words while performing the same actions as Hitler! Good thing his words were different, I'm sure those Palestinian children with their legs blown off suffocating beneath the rubble really care about that!

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What genocide is Biden committing?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you denying Biden is committing Genocide in Gaza?

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wasn't aware US was bombing Gaza, I thought that was Israel.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So you are denying that America is committing genocide in Gaza?

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are the US military bombing Palestinians and infrastructure under Biden's authority?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are the israeli military bombing Palestinians and infrastructure under Biden’s authority?

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I would have to imagine they take their orders from Netanyahu, not Biden.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Palestinians babies get bombed with American airplanes and American bombs by troops who received training from the American military and the Americans keep supplying them with said bombs. And then Biden bypasses congress to give them more bombs knowing they will be used for that purpose... only Netanyahu is responsible?

I have seen Trumpists do less mental gymnastics than this.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

None of those things mean he's committing genocide. He's not the one giving the orders to actually murder innocent civilians. You could make an argument that he's enabling genocide though by providing "aid" to Israel.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

An "argument"? Biden personally removed the civilian casualty restrictions on the American weapons being given to israel and just sent israel 150 million in bombs by bypassing congress.

Biden called himself a Zionist just a month ago while israel was already straight up committing genocide.

He is the not just approving the israeli genocide but also providing them all the means to do it.

You're all out here calling Trump an inserructionist for hinting people to go to the Capitol meanwhile Biden is out here fully arming and aiding in a straight up Genocide and you're somehow "not really sure if it's actually genocide".

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[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same. I was also banned from the climate sub for disagreeing that humanity is good for the planet lol.

[–] BassaForte@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Whatever Biden is is better than dictator trump

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

sure but thats a very low bar

[–] BassaForte@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes and how much do you want to bet that trump gets elected.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

i dont know but ill give it a watch cause whatever happens is probably going to set trends again.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Lemmy.ml is not without its share of LIB users, not to mention visitors from the rest of the lemmyverse.
Wear your fake internet demerits as a badge of honor: they suggest you’re not being tailist.

[–] zhunk@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

He might be right wing from a global perspective, but I'm still gonna vote for him instead of whoever has the R label. I wish we had cooler viable options, but "lesser of two evils" reigns supreme.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

id do that too, but lesser of two evils is sadly not stopping fascism

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

For years I've been saying it but his pussy supporters are terrified of the truth and would rather sweep his voting record under the rug than face it.

Wouldn't change anything to admit Biden isn't the progressive we wish he was other than the party might have to act.

[–] Narauko@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Seems like Trump isn't the only person with a selectively blind cult judging by the down votes and angry replies. Any opinion that we should be able to do better than Biden around Lemmy gets flamed way too hard to be reasonable.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or maybe most people are fucking smart enough to understand Trump is worse?

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not even what I'm saying.