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[–] Floon@lemmy.ml 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)

This is why people hate liberals, and why liberals often migrate over to conservatism: no matter how right you are, there's always someone happy to crap on you for not being right enough.

Don't shit on EVs for merely being one of many solutions that all need to be engaged with. It's not like without EVs, so many people would be rushing to areas of greater density and riding public transit, so your message is not helpful in achieving what you want, and actively angers your allies.

[–] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 10 months ago

Ah yes conservatism, the famous side of rational thinking and anti-bias thoughts, such as avoiding the perfect solution bias
Your comment having so many upvotes is disgusting

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is a lot like this Bors comic https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/8/8/1786532/-Cartoon-You-made-me-become-a-Nazi

Do honest people really migrate to "climate change is fake and queer people are a threat" because someone was mean to them online? Probably not often.

[–] Floon@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Plenty of people said if Bernie wasn't the nominee, they'd vote Trump. Puzzle that one.

[–] hyperhopper@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

I think both sides are lacking nuance here. If you shit on people getting electric vehicles or just thinking of getting one because that's not far enough: fuck you. But also, for people that just switched or are thinking of getting one but then see something like this and slam into reverse and say "I'm gonna support ICE cars till the day I die to spite those overly hostile woke liberals": fuck you too.

People should be able to take the information in a more nuanced way, and should stop swinging from extreme to extreme which has led to the current fucked state of politics

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Oh no, some liberals were being mean to me on the internet. Guess I'll just vote against my own interests to spite them...

[–] MalachaiConstant@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is how a lot of people vote. Maybe they aren't converted right then and there, but it builds up over time. Humans aren't rational man

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I don't doubt that that's the case, but I'm just pointing out (humorously) the absurdity of someone who is purportedly a principled individual who cares about things like climate change, civil/human rights, equality, bodily autonomy and most importantly democracy changing to the side that is openly against all of those things because people can be harsh and nasty on the internet sometimes.

Like, if someone really was so flimsy with their morals that they could bend so easily, did they ever really care in the first place? Or were they just looking for an excuse to blame the other side for their fecklessness?

[–] Zomboomafoo@slrpnk.net -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What makes you think that your vitriol is in my interests?

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Genuinely have no idea what you mean by that comment.

[–] Zomboomafoo@slrpnk.net -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You seem confused why people don't want to agree with you politically when you're being a dick to them.

It must be some massive coincidence

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Who am I being mean to?

I think you're reading too much into this.

[–] xilliah@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

Personally I think the issue is that you guys have only two parties.

[–] steakmeout@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Keep churning that pipeline to fascism.

[–] mriormro@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

I shit on liberals mostly because of their notions on 'altruistic capitalism'. As soon as they purchase an EV, they think they're out there saving the world and most don't think critically past that.