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Must Watch Video on why the Star Wars Fandom Hates LGBTIAQ+ People (www.youtube.com)
submitted 11 months ago by sculd@beehaw.org to c/lgbtq_plus@beehaw.org
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Amazing video produced by Jessie Gender along with a group of creators whom many of them are from the ** LGBTIAQ+ community** .

I knew from my anthropology class many years ago that George Lucas borrowed concept from the The Hero with a Thousand Faces.

What I did not know is that the author, Joseph Campbell is:

  1. A misogynist
  2. An antisemite
  3. Didn't research properly

This explains why the hero must be a (white) men.

Carl Jung's theory about collective unconsciousness and archetypes are also outdated and discarded by psychology.

The archetypes reduce women to "mother", "Goddess". etc. but never the hero.

Also, since Jung's theory categories people neatly into archetypes, those who does not fit social norm (LGBTQIA+ people) were never represented.

When the creation is based on such shaky foundations, no wonder the Star Wars fandom turns out to be racist and misogynist.

Btw, do you know who else's book borrows heavily from Jung? Jordan Peterson.

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[–] sculd@beehaw.org 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I agree about the demographics of Star Wars fans.

I have seen many YouTube videos by white male fans who keep complaining that all they want to see is the hero's journey and the new Star Wars movies are bad because they "go woke" or something like that. Its very toxic and unwelcoming.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The real problem with the sequels, is that they're a poor rehash of the other films, so for anyone who's watched the original trilogy and the prequels, all that's left in the sequels are some slightly better SFX, some different goofy parts, plus some poorly added racial elements that come from nowhere and go nowhere (see: Rose x Finn). Of course it didn't help that Carrie Fisher would pass away and they had to use CGI to paste her in, but even Rey's "hero journey" is kind of "meh" compared to Luke's or Anakin's, and IMO they didn't give her enough screen time.

[–] sculd@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago

jar

Agreed. This is also discussed in the video. The sequels are just rehash of the original trilogy and that is by design because that's what Disney does.

[–] frog@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago

It really is! I definitely think fandom spaces like YouTube do tend to be disproportionately male, with all the toxicity that comes with it. Not that the more female and LGBT dominated fandom spaces don't have their fair share of toxicity, but I'd rather deal with "my preferred gay couple is better than your preferred gay couple" than "gay couples shouldn't even exist". It's much easier to agree to disagree when the disagreement is about personal taste rather than whether some people even have a right to live.