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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I hate the emphasis of "simple possession charges", like there aren't situations where someone gets charged with multiple misdemeanors or other petty crimes while carrying an 8th. When Minnesota legalized this year they went the route of "simple possession" for pardons and exoneration, only about 3 people had their sentences ended. To me that indicates they're afraid of being labeled "weak on crime" instead of doing the right thing.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

People need to learn "tough on crime" and "law and order" are dog whistles for "oppress minorities"

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A lot of people already know, and that's exactly why they support it.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Word. It's a way for people who aren't outwardly "flag on a truck" racists to indulge their racism safely and quietly without confronting its existence directly.

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If you commit another crime while possessing, you'll be charged with said crime and possession.

You should still be cleared of the possesion charge, while staying locked up for whatever else you might have done.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What if you get nailed for possession then they find a bunch of other shit to charge you with. I assume that happens anyway. If weed was the basis of probable cause, throw out the conviction for the other stuff.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah. Fruit of the poison... uh... tree.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hell even that would be an improvement. I just don't think prisons fit anywhere in the rehabilitation of prisoners and would rather see all nonviolent offenders released.

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Ok I can agree on principle but in practice you unfortunately need to have alternative systems in place first to deal with the realities of the problem.

Take the guy I used to work with who went to prison for scamming old ladies out of money, if we don't have mechanisms to deal with people like him then it won't take long before everyone is demanding we bring back prisons

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I could be wrong, but I think it's possible for situations to exist where the other thing only becomes a crime because of the possession. Maybe something like being charged for carrying a gun during the commission of a crime, where the crime being committed was having marijuana.