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[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Stop eating.

No one can beat the 2nd law of thermodynamics

Stop eating = lose weight and die quickly

Contniue over eating = develop long term health issues and die early.

Equilibrium exists between these two extremes.

It's different for everyone. Find you balance, and live it. You don't have to be a monk or I have the iron will or a frontiersman to to just think "I know I'm still hungry, but maybe I shouldn't have a 2nd cheeseburger tonight"

[–] yuki2501@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

OF COURSE IT'S DIFFERENT FOR EVERYONE. That's my fucking point.

My issue is with ignorant people who judge everyone based on oversimplified premises.

Sugary snacks mess up your metabolysm. You stop burning fat. Your blood sugar gets imbalanced, you get highs and lows. And when you hit the lows, you feel exhausted and super hungry. And you have no idea what's messing you up because no matter how much you eat, you still get hungry, so you eat much more than what you ought to because your metabolism is fucked up and your brain gets the wrong signals. You try to cut your fat, but that gets you even more hungry, so you eat more carbs (even diet carbs like oatmeals and such) which then mess your blood sugar even more.

Even if you do exercise, you still end up getting fatter. Drinking diet soda doesn't fix it and gets you even hungrier.

And while you're doing the impossible to cut as much fat as you can, you still get fatter, your mood gets explosive, you can't sleep well, and then people are telling you to eat less and that you're not putting enough effort. Meanwhile your stomach is in unbearable pain because your hunger is out of control.

Also, you know what messes up hunger? Depression. There's just so many factors to take into account.

Anyway, you know how I finally broke that vicious circle (after I got my mental health under control)? I cut my carbs. I quit all sugary snacks (even the small ones). I quit all sodas and concentrated fruit juices. Started to consume more animal fat, against the "common knowledge". Whenever I got hungry, I didn't eat a snack. I just ate normally. Ham, a hotdog, milk, or even an egg. It wasn't easy and I woke up at 4AM in the morning all hungry. It was hell for two weeks. But after those two weeks I got better and my system got the balance it needed.

Boom. Lost 5 lbs in one month. I stopped getting tired. I was more energetic. I got better at the job.

But it took me years, literally years to find out it was the damn snacks (which were small enough to appear harmless) and the sodas with HFCS that were the ones at fault.

All these years of failed trial and error just to find out fats were not the enemy. But suuure, it was me eating two burgers instead of one.

I was NOT eating like a fucking pig. I was NOT supersizing my meals. But sure, armchair dietitians on reddit know what's best for me, right?

It's ignorant people giving unscientific advice who make life a living hell for the rest of us.

"Cut the fats". Yeah, right.

[–] TK420@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I too have a love/hate relationship with sugar. I want it in my chocolates, NOT MY FUCKING GRANOLA ASSHOLES!!!

[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I know I'm still hungry, but maybe I shouldn't have a 2nd cheeseburger tonight

As a fat person, I never face that decision (well ok, not never, once or twice a year around the holidays maybe). Most of the time it's more like "should I throw away half of this meal I paid for or finish eating it?" That's a bit harder to do, especially when you were raised to clean your plate or you'd be physically punished. Conditioning is a bitch.

[–] TK420@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why is your decision not: “I think I’ll save this for later?” I think your two options are severely flawed. You are going to be hungry before that food goes bad, save that shit for later 😋😋

[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I do when I can, but often it's not an option, like not going home or anywhere I have access to a refrigerator, or I'm on my motorcycle and no way to carry it...

[–] TK420@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

All I read is excuses, be better than that. Take each day as a new day to begin making better choices and new good habits that work. I only say this because I was there, you got this, you just have to try and in addition to that not make an excuse when you hit a bump in the road. Fuck that, plough through, you’ll be fine. It’s not a temporary change, this is a permanent lifestyle change….or choose to do none of that and stay the way you are.

[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No I get it, I was over 300lbs last year, I'm now under that and slowly making progress, it just gets on my nerves when people have the attitude of "it's easy, just make the choice to eat less" like it's a one time thing, it's not, it's constant. It's like telling alcoholics "it's easy, just don't drink". I might even argue it's easier to quit drugs, because you can live without. I quit smoking years ago, it was a rough but it gets easier the longer you don't do it. I can't just stop eating cold turkey.

[–] TK420@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

It’s just like smoking, and drinking….you take it step by step day by day. It is easy, people just always have an excuse, you can’t let it win, fuck that.